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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#158551: Nov 26th 2016 at 1:40:03 AM

Fidel Castro is dead.

Inter arma enim silent leges
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#158552: Nov 26th 2016 at 1:46:51 AM

I feel neutral.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#158553: Nov 26th 2016 at 1:50:51 AM

..That video looks kind iffy and nsfw by the preview picture alone. ._.;

Anyway, the General RIP thread already has the Castro stuff covered, so...

Shadow?
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#158554: Nov 26th 2016 at 2:53:30 AM

But it’s not simply that the head of California’s secession drive lives in a country fingered by myriad American intelligence agencies for interfering in the recent U.S. presidential election. Marinelli, a few months ago, also attended a secession conference in Moscow – one that was funded, in part, by the Kremlin. Joined by representatives of the Texan, Puerto Rican, and Hawaiian (via videoconference) secession movements – some of whom took photos together on Red Square – Marinelli stated his case to his Russian audience. For good measure, Marinelli also recently Tweeted that he supports “peace with Russia.”

As it is, Marinelli hasn’t gone to great lengths to hide his affiliations with Russia, and has defended his actions by noting that “[e]verybody’s using everybody.” In a recent interview with Business Insider, Marinelli added that Yes California – which began formal secession processes this week – is willing to work with any and all potential partners: “That’s why we don’t [have] a problem with me being in Russia, for example, or signing an agreement with a group in Russia.” (Other California secession groups, however, have disowned Marinelli for his relationship with Russia.) Indeed, Yes California recently, and curiously, Tweeted about the support from foreign powers the United States received during its own push for independence.

Again, there’s negligible likelihood Marinelli’s drive to wrest California from the United States will succeed, and there’s no reason to believe the Kremlin is playing any direct role in steering Yes California’s efforts. But given the Kremlin’s financing of events that bring together those who’d fracture the United States – to say nothing of Marinelli’s personal history – the cheery sheen on Yes California’s drive for independence is that much murkier, and that much stranger, than organizers would otherwise let on.

Finally the Russian Bear and Californian Grizzly Bear shall unite to combat the American Menace.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#158555: Nov 26th 2016 at 2:55:53 AM

???????????????????????

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#158556: Nov 26th 2016 at 3:20:59 AM

[up]It's from an article on Californian secessionists I posted (I think) a while ago.

edited 26th Nov '16 3:21:31 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#158557: Nov 26th 2016 at 3:50:50 AM

Does he not understand that it's the Russians who might have gotten Trump in office in the first place?

Oh really when?
henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#158558: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:24:15 AM

I'm still not buying this story that "the Russians" are behind Trump. The Clinton campaign was supposed to be making fun of Trump's nutty conspiracy theories, not coming up with conspiracy theories of their own.

One does not shake the box containing the sticky notes of doom!
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#158559: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:25:57 AM

Anything in particular that doesn't add up?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#158560: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:45:24 AM

[up][up] Wasn't that even stated that there are, in fact, ties between Trump advisors and Russian oligarchs and FBI sits on proof, but - lolcomey - decided to not examine this because Shillary?

Like, I think there even was an official statement like two-three days after the election. (I might be mistaken, of course)

edited 26th Nov '16 5:46:09 AM by FergardStratoavis

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United Earth
#158561: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:54:27 AM

Americans loving Russia. Not just any Americans; conservatives! Did the world turn upside down? Has The New Russia's disappointing quest to get Senpai to finally notice them and respect them as equals by becoming the embodiment of The '80s Corrupt Corporate Executive oligarchy finally suceed?

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#158562: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:57:17 AM

wild mass guessIt's all massive plot by republicans to create a perpetual momentum energy source. Reagan's spinning coffin will be linked to the world's largest turbine and provide free green energy until the stars themselves fade into oblivion.wild mass guess

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#158563: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:58:16 AM

here's the chief of the NSA saying on video that the DNC hacks were done by a state actor.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#158564: Nov 26th 2016 at 5:59:45 AM

I'm not going to dig out all the supporting evidence right now around Russia being behind the email hacking (I recommend searching Ars Technica for details) but that much is as certain as is possible without us having access to the classified stuff. We know Trump has probable conflicts of interest in Russia, that members of his election team had shady Russian connections and that in October there was evidence Russian hackers were poking around the voting systems in Florida. And we have prior cases where the Kremlin has pulled this kind of stunt in other countries.

We don't have definitive evidence that Russian tampering mattered in the final result or that Donald himself is complicit or being directly influenced but they sure had an interest in Trump succeeding, or at least disrupting things enough that Clinton would have had a mess on her hands.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#158565: Nov 26th 2016 at 6:07:53 AM

Could you imagine what would've happened if Obama in 2008 was even REMOTELY connected to Russian interests even if was a mere ex-girlfriend who happened to live in Russia?

The right would've blew a gasket. But when it's one of their guys, hey fuck it, let us be Russian puppets, doesn't matter he's one of US.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#158567: Nov 26th 2016 at 6:17:58 AM

[up][up] IOKIYAR

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#158568: Nov 26th 2016 at 6:22:57 AM

[up][up] That's not especially damning given he is openly in favor of improving relations with Russia.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#158570: Nov 26th 2016 at 6:45:52 AM

Trump on Twitter "Fidel Castro is dead!"

hahahaha

Our next President ya'll

New Survey coming this weekend!
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#158571: Nov 26th 2016 at 6:46:36 AM

Did somebody say conspiracy theories?

Ah, the entertainment value of it all.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#158572: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:12:48 AM

Honestly, the fact that Trump Tower's penthouse is decorated in a Louis XIV, Versailles style is the perfect metaphor for Trump's life, campaign, presidency, and hopefully, his downfall — I mean, Versailles played up the luxury, but you only had to turn a corner to find a duke shitting in a broom closet.

Romney should count his blessings — at least Trump isn't making him wake up at six every morning to wipe the President-elect's ass. That apology seems pretty tame in comparison.

edited 26th Nov '16 7:15:23 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#158573: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:24:56 AM

[up]That's only because the Manservant position is already taken by Chris "Reek" Cristie.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#158574: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:25:34 AM

[up][up]

Honestly, the fact that Trump Tower's penthouse is decorated in a Louis XIV, Versailles style

When asked what the (non-white) poor should eat, Trump responded "Let them eat KFC".

(sshh, yes, I know Marie Antoinette didn't actually say "Let them eat cake".)

edited 26th Nov '16 7:27:19 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#158575: Nov 26th 2016 at 7:36:53 AM

OMG you're right. Versailles functioned a lot like Trump Hotel appears to be functioning now: powerful folks paying exorbitant amounts for accommodation there in the hopes of buying a moment of the sovereign's ear.

My God.

Do you think Trump will reverse the Dinner Table Bargain and bring the Presidency to New York?

Wouldn't that be hilarious?

I mean, part of the reason why the Potomac got DC was because Washington owned a lot of land there...

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