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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
RE: Civil War
It doesn't matter if the North was fighting to free the slaves, what matters is that the South was, from the word "go", fighting to keep them. You can't separate slavery from the Confederacy anymore than you can separate anti-Semitism from Nazi Germany—it is the core value around which society was organized, regardless of what the outside world thought. The USSR wasn't fighting to defend Jews from Hitler, but Hitler was absolutely fighting to get at the Jews he believed controlled the USSR. It's the same deal here. Whatever Lincoln's intentions, Davis and co, were in it it defend slavery.
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Weird accent. Sounds like a British actor with a Received Pronunciation accent trying (and failing) to do a New Englander's non-rhotic.
To get the accent down, listen to some of Senator Ted Kennedy's speeches (while trying to ignore the stupidity.) "Pahk yah cah in Hahvad Yahd," etc...
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As I said, the point is more to not paint the North more heroic as it was. Just look what shaping themselves as the bastions for freedom for their actions in WWII has done to the US and the UK. It is a very damaging mythos, especially since it lead to the believe that there is something about the German nature or culture which lead to the Holocaust. Had there be a better understanding for the mechanism behind it in the US, as well as a better understanding for its own role in this sorry story (you know, like the fact that the US send whole ships full of Jews back to Europe and had no intention whatsoever to take action until the Japanese attacked them), people might have recognized the danger Trump represents.
Also Romney hopefully knows better than giving Trump the satisfaction.
edited 25th Nov '16 10:46:09 AM by Swanpride
The thing is that I'm genuinely unsure what Romney should do. If he tells Trump to go fuck himself, there goes any chance of getting anyone who isn't a Trump crony in the cabinet. But it's also important that people publicly stand up to him.
So, maybe say 'just so you know, we're going to impeach you unless you sell your hotels like, right now. I'll swallow my pride and give you your goddamn apology, but understand that you're hanging by a thread.' or something like that.
I'd say respond with something like "I'm sure Donald Trump has the wisdom to realize there is nothing to apologize for.", which still strokes his ego while sidestepping the apology.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."They don't think he'd break his promises. There's a subsection of Republican voters who think Republican rhetoric is empty bluster and much noise signifying nothing. That it's all to whip up a few jerkoffs and Republicans mean "Low taxes on the middle class and up the amount of cops to keep gangs away.". That to strip away healthcare or Social Security is crazy talk. Basically the GOP's spoken in loud rhetoric so long they think it's gibber jabber.
Straight from the Article:
“Maybe Mr. Trump can make it better by making it more equal,” he said.
edited 25th Nov '16 1:54:01 PM by PotatoesRock
Reasons for hope
Reason 10: While Democrats will be defending more Senate seats, Republicans will be defending more open State Houses.
The Secret Service and NYPD are likely to need two floors in the New York skyscraper to house more than 250 security officers.
Mr Trump’s flagship Fifth Avenue building has priced vacant floor space at $105 (£84) per square foot, according to the New York Post, amounting to $1.5 million (£1.2m) a year per floor.
It is not unusual for the Secret Service to pay rent on workspace to protect the senior political figures outside official residences.
But this is likely to be the first time the government agency has had to pay a company belonging to the President-elect to provide his own security.
Sources told the newspaper a permanent security office is planned in the building, though 40 floors below the Trump residence on the top floor.
Mr Trump has indicated that he intends to spend less time in Washington than his predecessors and may use Trump Tower as a key base outside of the White House.

edited 25th Nov '16 9:42:07 AM by Elle