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Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#157626: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:13:21 PM

Let's not present assassination as a favourable option, please.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#157627: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:13:30 PM

I still wonder how a man who lives in a literal gold-plated skyscraper with his name stamped on the outside conned a bunch of poor people into thinking he was some kind of outsider or man of the people.

It's been fun.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#157628: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:16:55 PM

[up] It's easier to do if they don't have much in the way of education, if you're running on the party line that they'd be more inclined to vote for anyway, and well...if you're good at it.

Being a snake oil salesman is something Trump is VERY good at. He's such a good showman people don't notice the trail of slime he leaves behind.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157629: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:18:59 PM

[up][up][up]I'm not saying it's favorable; just that it's a possibility. That wouldn't be my first choice either, but the fact is that the man's got one of the lowest approval ratings in Presidential history. I'm not advocating it by any means, but it's still something that you can't really rule out.

@Silas W: Thanks, really. That's what I needed to hear. Although the fact that there's even a 1% chance it could happen still gives me a touch of the willies...

edited 21st Nov '16 6:20:04 PM by kkhohoho

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#157630: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:20:37 PM

I still wonder how a man who lives in a literal gold-plated skyscraper with his name stamped on the outside conned a bunch of poor people into thinking he was some kind of outsider or man of the people.

See, he may be a rich man . . . but unlike Romney, he's an honest rich man who speaks his mind and tells it like it is. tongue

edited 21st Nov '16 6:21:14 PM by FluffyMcChicken

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#157631: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:21:34 PM

Donald might be elite but watch out for Bannon. He does actually want to tear down the establishment, I fear that he is competent and it's probable he knows how to manuver Donald given how he was able to steer him out of meltdown mode after replacing Manafort.

henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157632: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:23:13 PM

I still wonder how a man who lives in a literal gold-plated skyscraper with his name stamped on the outside conned a bunch of poor people into thinking he was some kind of outsider or man of the people.

It probably has a lot to do with the "Rags to Riches" trope. It's easier for people to identify with a rich snob, if they think they can someday become a rich snob themselves (They can't.)

edited 21st Nov '16 6:24:37 PM by henry42

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#157633: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:26:19 PM

I really, really hope we succeed in getting Bannon out of the cabinet. The man is human filth, wrung out by some of the worst the Internet has to offer.

It's been fun.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#157634: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:29:09 PM

Supposedly "policy advisor" is not a position the Senate has to confirm.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#157635: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:29:15 PM

Just a reminder that Bannon is not in the Cabinet, he's an advisor.

For future reference, if someone's title does not include the word "Secretary" and isn't "Attorney General", then they aren't part of the Cabinet, and unless I'm sorely mistaken, are not subject to Congressional approval.

[nja]

edited 21st Nov '16 6:29:43 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157636: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:30:26 PM

What exactly does the chief of staff do? Just how much damage could Bannon do in that office?

One does not shake the box containing the sticky notes of doom!
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#157637: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:31:50 PM

Ah, so no Cabinet Battles for him?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#157638: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:35:06 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_of_Staff

Basically a secretary and gatekeeper with authority to order people around the White House, exact details vary by administrations.

One of the bullets listed in that job description is "controlling the flow of information". If that means Donald will be depending on Bannon for news, well...

Edit: [down]Whoops. Preibus is the Cheif of Staff.

edited 21st Nov '16 6:38:27 PM by Elle

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#157639: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:36:21 PM

@henry: Bannon isn't chief of staff, he's "chief strategist", aka he's basically Trump's Karl Rove.

henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157640: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:38:48 PM

[up][up] So, no official authority, but he's the president's right-hand man? That position sounds ripe for a potential Dragon-in-Chief.

edited 21st Nov '16 6:39:02 PM by henry42

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#157641: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:40:23 PM

I still wonder how a man who lives in a literal gold-plated skyscraper with his name stamped on the outside conned a bunch of poor people into thinking he was some kind of outsider or man of the people.

Word.

Do not obey in advance.
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#157642: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:40:40 PM

Also Bannon isn't Chief of Staff... That's Reince Priebus. Steve Bannon is officially Counselor to the President.

edited 21st Nov '16 6:41:15 PM by GameGuruGG

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#157643: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:44:18 PM

Near as I can tell from this, Chief of Staff and Chief Strategist are essentially the public and private faces of the same coin.

Edit to add: Bannon might have trouble getting the security clearance needed to take the position. He has a domestic violence charge on his record. among other red flags. Donald could override the vetting process but not without backlash.

edited 21st Nov '16 6:50:49 PM by Elle

henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157644: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:45:19 PM

@CaptainCapsase IIRC, Karl Rove was unofficially Bush Jr.'s #1 adviser. Is that right?

edited 21st Nov '16 6:45:40 PM by henry42

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henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157645: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:48:51 PM

[up][up] Just when I thought he couldn't possibly get any more disgusting.

One does not shake the box containing the sticky notes of doom!
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#157646: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:51:03 PM

Also, as to Trump and Nukes:

Keep in mind besides his own Ego, Trump is driven by Greed. He can't well grift and run off with fat bags of cash if the world's nuked.

Would get in the way of his British Golf Course he's using his presidential authority to push against Wind Farms obstructing the view.

Trump's Presidency is likely going to be grifting, petty revenge and Steve Bannon-ism.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#157647: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:52:46 PM

[up][up][up][up] That's good. That might mean he doesn't get the job and influence the flip-flopping Trump from behind the scenes.

Hell, Trump might get an adviser who isn't a terrible Racist and Propagandist.

[down] ... What?

edited 21st Nov '16 6:53:45 PM by DingoWalley1

henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157648: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:52:55 PM

Bannon also once described himself as a “Leninist” who wanted to “destroy the state... bring everything crashing own, and destroy all of today’s establishment” in order to reach tea party populist goals.
WTF?

edited 21st Nov '16 6:53:37 PM by henry42

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henry42 [REDACTED] from Western Hemisphere Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#157649: Nov 21st 2016 at 6:57:44 PM

[up][up] Read the article @Elle linked to.

edited 21st Nov '16 6:57:55 PM by henry42

One does not shake the box containing the sticky notes of doom!
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157650: Nov 21st 2016 at 7:00:34 PM

[up][up]Oh, I think it's pretty simple: Bannon wants to bring the Soviet Union back from the grave.tongue

edited 21st Nov '16 7:00:52 PM by kkhohoho


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