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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157251: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:32:50 PM

[up][up] As an Asian-American, I'm also rather apprehensive. Maybe not to the same extent, but given Bannon's views and Trump's talk about starting trade war with China...

edited 20th Nov '16 11:33:04 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157252: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:33:11 PM

Well- if Romney had won, we certainly wouldn't have had Trump winning the election in that parallel universe, so at the very least the last year of American politics would've looked very different.

And it would've led to a GOP controlled administration, and it should be obvious to all that that would've had consequences.

But certainly Romney wouldn't have been nearly as bad as Trump looks like he's going to be.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:34:54 PM by Gilphon

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#157253: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:35:21 PM

Well- we certainly wouldn't have had Trump winning the election in that parallel universe, so at the very least the last year of American politics would've looked very different. And it would've led to a GOP controlled administration, and it should be obvious to all that that would've had consequences. Certainly Romney wouldn't have been nearly as bad as Trump looks like he's going to be.

It would've led to Hillary versus Romney. I think Romney would've won that and by 2020, I think Trump would've felt like he was too old to do the job.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157254: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:39:03 PM

At this point I would gladly welcome a third term of Dubya and Cheney over the upcoming nightmare that Trump's administration is shaping up to be.

Disgusted, but not surprised
animefan1 Since: Dec, 2013
#157255: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:40:36 PM

I honestly would like to see what would trump do in office. If he's a fuck up, i would regret ever supporting him.

What? What is this?
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#157256: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:41:15 PM

Yeah if it came between Cheney and Trump, I'd gladly take Cheney. They're both awful people but at least Cheney is competent.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157257: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:42:19 PM

[up][up] BTW, that comment you made about Alex Jones? Trump's also a fan of Alex Jones and has granted his views legitimacy. That's yet another reason a lot of people are wary of Trump. He panders to conspiracy theorists.

I just hope that when Trump screws up, you'll hold him accountable for it and not vote for him again in four years.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:43:56 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#157258: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:42:26 PM

[up]x3 I'll be honest, I'm curious why you supported him if you knew about the climate change stuff (also, did you know about Pence's support of conversion therapy?).

I really wish that Jeb! had been the nominee.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:43:20 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#157259: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:43:05 PM

Trump has already screwed up by appointing a white supremacist into his Cabinet.

Any arguments about Trump's racism aside, there is no mistaking the fact that Bannon is a white supremacist and anti-semite. In that regard, he is actually worse than Trump, who is casually racist but not really devoted to the racism ideologically.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:44:21 PM by Draghinazzo

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157260: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:44:21 PM

[up] And Bannon is shaping up to be Trump's own Rasputin.

Disgusted, but not surprised
animefan1 Since: Dec, 2013
#157261: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:45:23 PM

he's a fan of alex jones? The hell? this alex jones?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAEoCHANYY&t=12s

What? What is this?
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#157262: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:45:44 PM

[up][up][up] I pretty sure that Chief Strategist isn't a Cabinet position.

I seem to recall someone here posting a response from their Congressman that while they certainly didn't believe that Bannon belongs in the White House and is willing to make their displeasure known, his appointment wasn't actually subject to Congressional approval.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:47:01 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157263: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:46:13 PM

[up][up] ...You really didn't know? SMH

edited 20th Nov '16 11:46:26 PM by M84

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#157264: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:46:50 PM

My dad sadly supported Trump even though he doesn't like him because he supports his party first no matter what. A lifetime of watching Fox News and reading the Drudge Report has caused him to become oblivious to all the dog whistles and he became a big believer in Obama the Kenyan and Obama the Anti-Christ and Obama 'caused Brexit.

He pretty much just thinks the government is corrupt and at least with Republicans he'll pay less taxes to these corrupt institutions.

He also doesn't care about people on welfare despite being on welfare as a child. -facepalms-

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#157265: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:47:11 PM

[up][up][up]My bad if that's the case.

Point still stands that he was put into a position of power by Trump.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:47:38 PM by Draghinazzo

MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Searching
#157266: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:47:23 PM

Trump improved minority numbers for all major groups voting for the Republican Party when compared to Romney. He got 30% of Asians and 30% of Latinos (granted, that includes Cubans, who are generally just "white" now), and 37% of "other" (i.e. not white, black, Asian, or Latino). I don't think it's accurate to say he succeeded mainly because of racism (unless you're talking about a specific state... like Wisconsin).

Then again, the narrative of Trump being the working man's candidate is also something of a myth. He won the wealthier income brackets and lost voters making less than $50,000 (median personal income in this country is $30,240). With all wealth brackets above 50k being really neck in neck. So it's not really an establishment revolt either.

[up][up]

>supported Trump

>sees Brexit as bad

how?

edited 20th Nov '16 11:48:22 PM by MonsieurThenardier

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157267: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:48:08 PM

Rupert Murdoch has inflicted an immeasurable amount of damage to the world by poisoning the well of knowledge.

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#157268: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:48:12 PM

@M84 To be fair, it's not like this was advertised.

@anime Yep. Trump even legitimized him by going on there.

Check it out:

animefan1 Since: Dec, 2013
#157269: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:48:27 PM

[up]He doesn't like people on welfare even though he was on it when he was a kid? wow...

What? What is this?
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#157270: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:48:37 PM

It wasn't the sole factor that led to his rise but the xenophobia and racism were still big parts of his campaign.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#157271: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:51:04 PM

So yeah, Trump basically helped normalize a guy who thinks the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157272: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:54:11 PM

Here's another, more recent thing: Trump is encouraging foreign diplomats to stay at his hotels. Which means he's encouraging foreign diplomats to give him money. Which means he's encouraging foreign diplomats to bribe him.

As another thing, he just payed out a 24 Million dollar settlement for a fraud case. The settlement was only expected to be half that much. No other President-elect as ever had to pay a settlement for a fraud.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#157273: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:54:18 PM

Trump improved minority numbers for all major groups voting for the Republican Party when compared to Romney. He got 30% of Asians and 30% of Latinos (granted, that includes Cubans, who are generally just "white" now), and 37% of "other" (i.e. not white, black, Asian, or Latino). I don't think it's accurate to say he succeeded mainly because of racism (unless you're talking about a specific state... like Wisconsin).

It was white rural workers that won it for Trump. He courted them by promising them that he'd rip up NAFTA which has hurt them and saying that he'd bring back coal and factory jobs.

Hillary was seen as pro-TPP which they didn't like. Obama should never have introduced that during the election. It hurt Hillary a lot.

>supported Trump >sees Brexit as bad how?

I told him about how bad Brexit fucked up the UK and he jumped to Obama. It was like a reflex.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#157274: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:56:20 PM

He doesn't like people on welfare even though he was on it when he was a kid? wow..

When I bring it up his counter is "I wasn't on welfare. My dad was on welfare" and he doesn't have a good opinion of his dad so.....yeah.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:57:02 PM by MadSkillz

animefan1 Since: Dec, 2013
#157275: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:56:57 PM

interesting.

What? What is this?

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