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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#156851: Nov 19th 2016 at 1:35:33 PM

Let's hope the economy tanks enough due to his stupidity that the voters will get rid of him. I'd rather that than an illusory bubble of wealth.

Also no idea about how to go about doing it but it's probably never too late to start trying to reach out to the rural voters with info of this. Something to try to do however challenging it might be. Democratic Party-led Internet initiatives to provide easy wifi to rural communities and things like that. Good chance to win them over, succoring them like this.

edited 19th Nov '16 1:37:59 PM by AlleyOop

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#156852: Nov 19th 2016 at 1:48:58 PM

So Pence is inspiring a slew of new musicals...

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#156853: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:23:55 PM

Let's hope the economy tanks enough due to his stupidity that the voters will get rid of him. I'd rather that than an illusory bubble of wealth.

You better not hold your breath on that, especially if the Democrats manage to block most of Trump's economic policy.

In fact some of Trumps policies might even have an expansionary effect on the Economy.

On the other hand it may not be necessary to hope for that. Paul Ryan has signaled that not only does he want to do away with the ACA, but he's also looking to put Medicare on the chopping block. While the ACA doesn't have the most solid support Medicare is still a fairly popular program. It may just be the opening that the Democrats need to counterattack the GOP, especially since Trump said he wasn't going to cut Medicare.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#156854: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:32:34 PM

What exactly do the Republicans get out of repealing Medicare anyways?

TropesForever God forbid women do anything from wait where is she Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
God forbid women do anything
#156855: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:33:55 PM

They get Republicanism. It's an ideological thing.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#156856: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:37:37 PM

What exactly do the Republicans get out of repealing Medicare anyways?
They get prove the power of the Private Market by privatizing it and seeing it be more 'efficient' (it won't be.)

Also it's an undercurrent of fighting the last war, against FDR and Lyndon B. Johnson, for expanding Government. Government Healthcare is Socialist and Communist.

It all ties back to dumb ideological reasons among the Republican elite, one way or another. Whether it be "Private Market Good", "Government Needs to be Small", "Communism is Bad", "Ayn Rand was Right", etc.

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#156857: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:38:57 PM

Medicare actually helps people. The Republicans cannot let that continue. tongue

edited 19th Nov '16 2:40:35 PM by GameGuruGG

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#156858: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:43:17 PM

[up][up]"Except about God."

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#156859: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:45:23 PM

I've always suspected an undercurrent of sadism goes along with those small government positions. The GOP is well past Hanlon's Razor.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#156860: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:08:11 PM

They essentially believe in social Darwinism. Purge the plebs, let them die off of preventable issues if they're not catering our every needs.

MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Searching
#156861: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:10:42 PM

That's in part because the military changed the criteria for what is counted as a civilian death to downplay the number of deaths.
No it isn't. These numbers don't come from the military, they come from NG Os.

I'm going to assume no one here has any actual facts and figures to back up their feelz. Seems to be standard for the anti-drone crowd.

while the CIA carelessly cuts through swaths of people to get to their targets.
This part. Prove it with numbers. Their operations in Somalia and Pakistan are well-documented. Yemen less so.

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#156862: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:11:00 PM

Boycott Hamilton? Pffft, that's hilarious. Good luck with that.

Arutema Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#156864: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:25:09 PM

I mean, it would be ridiculous if he didn't all things considered. But whether he's actually got enough sway on the matter is another question.

[down] I mean, he was known for being brutally tortured by the Vietcong and it's affected his life ever since. He would be one of the first in Congress to speak out on such things. I would be truly shocked if at any point he decided to fall in line on this issue without raising any protest.

edited 19th Nov '16 3:41:51 PM by AlleyOop

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#156865: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:30:01 PM

[up][up]Mc Cain is reliable to have a conscience when it comes to this sort of thing. He and Sanders did good things for vets.

@Anti-drone crowd? Who the hell are you calling anti-drone? Drones are made of awesome! It's how they're used that's the problem!

edited 19th Nov '16 3:37:29 PM by TheHandle

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#156866: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:38:53 PM

@Monsieur: I was under the impression you were quoting official casualty rates released, which indeed were lower than figures released by independent humanitarian organizations.

Shippudentimes Since: Dec, 2012
#156867: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:48:25 PM

Apparently Mike Pence went to Hamilton in Broadway recently, and the lead actor had an unscripted plea for him regarding Trump:

And now it's gaining vitriol from Trump himself. Demanding an apology.

edited 19th Nov '16 3:50:45 PM by Shippudentimes

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#156868: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:52:16 PM

The ridiculous thing is it's as gentle as it could've been, and not even made as a criticism but a request. I'm worried that Trump may legit abuse lawsuits as a soft means of censorship at this rate.

On that note.

I don't think the part about diplomatic bribes has been made yet.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#156869: Nov 19th 2016 at 3:56:18 PM

We all know Trump is insane.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#156870: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:05:26 PM

[up][up]That's also another bad sign, of course. Demanding an apology for what was a pretty polite request, that's the beginning. Soon enough it won't be a demand for an apology, it'll be an arrest for treason against the state.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#156871: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:06:52 PM

So Trump is trying to make foreign diplomats stay at his hotels so they could garner favor with him.

This is pretty much all the Republicans need to impeach him later if they want once he proves too unstable.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#156872: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:08:27 PM

I'm hoping he's stupid enough to try to sue McCain and Paul Ryan for speaking out against him, because the ensuing bloodbath would be kinda hilarious in a Black Comedy way.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#156873: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:08:43 PM

It's also setting a rather bad precedent.

It's possible that other leaders after Trump might not be as buffoonish or malicious overtly, but if they see they can get away with doing shit like that they definitely will try.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#156874: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:14:54 PM

If (hopefully when) the Democrats ever get back into office I hope they have the conscience to do something to close some of these loopholes, and not just leave them open for abuse of their own.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#156875: Nov 19th 2016 at 4:33:03 PM

History has its eyes on you. Every act you do, on that level, sets a precedent. And each of your actions ripple across the globe.

The weight of responsibility that lies on US politicians is back-breaking, yet they get lost as tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day. It's a damned tragedy is what it is.

edited 19th Nov '16 4:33:54 PM by TheHandle

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