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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#156626: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:31:42 PM

We'll add that to the mile-long list of things we can only hope Trump will or won't do.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156627: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:32:00 PM

He has advocated a trade war with China in the past. Whether or not he'll actually follow through, and whether or not that leads to a cold war...

There is the fact that he supposedly owes over half a million dollars to the Bank of China.

edited 18th Nov '16 12:32:58 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#156628: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:32:54 PM

I'm a straight white Catholic man and Pence terrifies me. He should rightfully terrify anyone who believes in equity and justice. Not to mention that a lot of people forget that Catholics and Mormons were both at one point targets of WAS Ps as well, so if this country really starts regressing we might end up in the crosshairs again.

edited 18th Nov '16 12:34:19 PM by randomdude4

"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#156629: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:33:13 PM

So, @Hodor2, Sanders just showed up unannounced at a protest in front of the white house to deliver a speech opposing the keystone pipeline on the grounds of it infringing upon the rights of Native Americans in the region its being built through.

edited 18th Nov '16 12:45:52 PM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156630: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:34:05 PM

[up][up] Pence concerns me too, but not in a "Oh, Crap! I might end up sent to a gay conversion camp!" way. Though I guess I might end up in a Bible study camp due to my atheism.

edited 18th Nov '16 12:35:16 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#156631: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:34:52 PM

Yeah, Sikh temples keep getting attacked when anti-Muslim sentiment flares up.

Which is really stupid when you know anything about Sikhism. Every Sikh is taught to defend themselves, but only in self-defence. So, attacking them is a really stupid idea.

There's also something about every Sikh carrying a knife on them almost all the time.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#156632: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:36:35 PM

[up][up]Pence does concern me in that way. Trump, however, concerns me in a "might blow up the planet" way.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#156633: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:36:54 PM

Okay, this is somewhat juvenile of me, but fuck it, I laughed.

"Hillary's an old woman, she doesn't know how to start movements. Me, I have the best movements, I make the greatest movements you'll ever see. You'll see so many great movements from me that eventually everyone's going to have some really big league movements. Believe me."

Oh God! Natural light!
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#156634: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:38:10 PM

Are these conversion camps going to be for adults? I was under the impression that Pence was making these for kids.

Which I mean, isn't better, but still.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#156635: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:39:10 PM

Is that...

A gold towel?

That seems... counterproductive.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#156636: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:40:33 PM

Adults can go through conversion therapy, but they have to do it willingly. A parent can force their child into conversion therapy.

And Pence would want to change it so you can force an adult into conversion therapy.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#156637: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:41:27 PM

Jesus Christ, what is happening to this country.

Ugh, who am I kidding - the same thing that's been happening since the day Columbus hit the shores.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#156638: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:41:30 PM

Pence can waste political capital on trying to passively aggressively eliminate gay people all he wants, public acceptance of homosexuality has been going up and religious fundamentalism has been going down, and those trends aren't likely to change. Muslims have a lot more to worry about, since we're (for some reason?) still blaming them for 9/11.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#156639: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:42:23 PM

"Sanders just showed up unannounced at a protest in front of the white white"

Freudian Slip?

On that topic though, it's certain good that he's involved with that and I really hope Obama doesn't allow the pipeline to go through. I would say though that I'm not particularly surprised. Sanders does seem to care about/prioritize minority rights in situations where it involves a broader economic issue.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#156640: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:42:30 PM

I'm sorry if this comes off as insensitive but "gay conversion camp" is starting to sound to me like "Obama's gonna confiscate all the guns" to me.

Support for conversion therapy was a thing on the GOP platform but no one has exactly been talking about a plan to implement anything of the sort, all the attention seemingly going toward bigger, badder bathroom bills, pushback against marriage and general discrimination.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#156641: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:43:45 PM

We're in the GOP's America now. Anything's possible, and we have to be prepared for the absolute worst if we want to be able to fight back effectively.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#156642: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:44:20 PM

People are worried because conversion therapy is Pence's little pet project. He pulled funding from AIDS research and put it into funding conversion therapy.

And unlike "taking our guns away", these places exist.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#156643: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:48:18 PM

"Curing them gays" was something of an obsession of Pence's as a Congressman, and he's one of the most anti-LGBTQ state politicians ever elected in the modern era. It's not unreasonable to expect something horrifying from someone like him.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#156644: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:48:29 PM

The grand rumor mill has it that Trump is quietly agreeing to a $25 million settlement over his Trump University scam.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#156645: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:50:59 PM

Great, so we won't even have the audit of that to look forward to.

It's been fun.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#156646: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:51:12 PM

@Ambar: Yeah, when I say Pence is more predictable, that's what I mean. Granted, the chances of Trump actually blowing up the planet aren't that high, but when it comes to the possibility of the end of civilization, you can't really afford to take any risks, regardless of how small they are.

edited 18th Nov '16 12:55:00 PM by kkhohoho

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#156647: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:52:52 PM

Still, there's so many more immediate problems that being worried about ones that have yet to manifest is a lot of wasted energy. Also, right now it looks like Pence might be increasingly marginalized in the Trump administration, except for his official VP duties.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#156648: Nov 18th 2016 at 12:59:12 PM

Anyway, on the note of Japanese relations/Japanese-Americans - there's a reason a lot of the people in that video linked a few days ago were talking about reexamining Article 9 (the disarmament clause). Trump's anti-globalism may mean troop withdrawals from Japan and a straining of our relationships with allies there, which may invigorate Japan's conservative and war-hawky right wing.

It's been fun.
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#156649: Nov 18th 2016 at 1:02:23 PM

[up]Eh, I'm actually okay with Japan re-arming. Having an army is their right as a sovereign state, and not having it just leaves them subservient to other powers.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#156650: Nov 18th 2016 at 1:04:55 PM

Dwayne Johnson may or may not run for president in 2020.

I don't know if I like this trend. First Kanye, then Perlman, now him. I do not want to see American politics turn into even more of a celebrity circus than they already are.

But on the other hand, what the hell - if a qualified and good-hearted celebrity came along, then it could be just what we need. The P*ssy-Grabber-In-Chief is a showman - fight fire with fire.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."

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