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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#156376: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:28:13 AM

[up][up][up][up]They chose an unhealthy outlet for their personal issues.

edited 18th Nov '16 9:09:45 AM by nervmeister

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156377: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:29:18 AM

With each day, I feel more and more like this:

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#156378: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:31:14 AM

[up][up][up][up]Post-Fact politics, remember? They will chalk it up the same way the Democrats will do if they won, as baseless theories from sore losers, except its actually legit in this case.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#156379: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:33:49 AM

I'm realizing now more than ever that I'm weak and privileged, because I don't feel like I have the strength to fight this for four years. I know there are people out there - hell, I know people personally - who will fight until their fingernails are shredded and their hands are bloody to stop things like this, but I can't help but look ahead and wonder if any of it will actually do anything, or if this administration will look at the passion and effort and tears and blood of a hundred million people and just laugh.

I'm sorry, I think I'm just bringing things down in here. I'll stick around since I do want to stay at least a bit informed, but I think I have to step away for a while.

It's been fun.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#156380: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:34:06 AM

The FADA runs blatantly afoul of the 14th amendment in its breadth, although a stacked supreme court that gave us Burwell v Hobby Lobby could affirm it.

The problem is that would drive a wedge of the country in 2, because it's not only about religion but about "moral conviction," so left-leaning groups could outright refuse to do business with conservatives too, creating literal independent fiefdoms where everyone is mutually protected by their right to discriminate based on "moral conviction."

It's a banana-republic law, basically. It erodes the ability of government to function because it allows everybody to discriminate, not just private individuals.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#156381: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:35:57 AM

If the nukes start flying, I really want to ride one like that.

Re: Trump supporters and racism. I'm fine with trying to win back the disaffected white Obama supporters for the purpose of winning elections, but I take a Trump vote as a personal insult. I would never be able to call one a friend. A vote for Trump is an endorsement of his scurrilous views, no matter what the voter's intent. If we don't repudiate his racism, misogyny, and xenophobia, and the fact that he won in spite of it, we risk further normalizing it as a part of our political discourse.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#156382: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:37:21 AM

[up][up]Well that assumes that it will be enforced equally on all groups, which it almost certainly won't be.

I can't see particularly conservative Muslims getting away with say, turning away people with service dogs because of their "moral convictions".

edited 18th Nov '16 6:37:37 AM by Mio

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#156383: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:37:49 AM

To paraphrase Twitter activist Shaun Lau, "I used to want to give Trump a chance. Then he said that he wanted to ban Muslims and that Mexicans were rapists." Any chances Trump had expired months ago, if not years.
Honestly, I really am baffled by the number of people who said stuff like "oh, he doesn't actually believe those things, politicians always lie to get votes." Wonder if they'll face up to reality now?

Ahahahaha, of course they won't.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#156384: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:39:30 AM

[up] What makes that super hypocritical is that Clinton was pilloried for lying, when her "lies" were bog standard political mealy-mouthing for the most part, and her truthfulness rating overall was superb.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#156385: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:42:22 AM

Well, we gave Trump his chance. Now we've seen what he's done with it."

... I wonder how many in the electoral college are LGBT or close to some...

edited 18th Nov '16 6:43:27 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156386: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:42:32 AM

[up][up] Clinton Rules and IOKIYAR

edited 18th Nov '16 6:42:43 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#156387: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:44:21 AM

Trump's cabinet appointments should be conclusive proof that he intends to govern as he campaigned.

And that? Is fucking chilling.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156388: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:45:23 AM

[up] Rule #1: Believe the autocrat. He means what he says. Whenever you find yourself thinking, or hear others claiming, that he is exaggerating, that is our innate tendency to reach for a rationalization. This will happen often: humans seem to have evolved to practice denial when confronted publicly with the unacceptable.

This may explain why millions were willing to vote for him.

edited 18th Nov '16 6:46:28 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#156389: Nov 18th 2016 at 6:55:57 AM

A vote for Trump is an endorsement of his scurrilous views, no matter what the voter's intent. If we don't repudiate his racism, misogyny, and xenophobia, and the fact that he won in spite of it, we risk further normalizing it as a part of our political discourse.
My grandfather, who's moderately conservative, and never uses social media, wrote a multi-page post after Trump won, and he said something that really resonated with me. Essentially (not quoted directly for privacy reasons): "To the people I know who supported Trump, now I know who you are. I respect you as a person, and will treat you that way, but I am old and done waiting for people like you to become better human beings." note 

Personally, (and I understand that I am in a position of relative privilege that would allow me to do so) I am going to continue to try and treat people respectfully, regardless of their views. But those opinions themselves have none of my respect or sympathy, and I will tell those people as much. I mean, probably; I'm actually a huge coward. But I'm going to try.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156390: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:01:27 AM

[up] In the years to come — and with them impending disasters, defilement of our liberties, destabilization of our economy, the crumbling of what little moral high ground we once possessed as a nation — I hope the people who voted for Trump end up regretting it. Enough, at least, not to vote for him again in 2020.

edited 18th Nov '16 7:02:07 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Aquaconda (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#156391: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:01:57 AM

Is it true that Pence is having his own email scandal now?

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#156392: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:05:00 AM

[up][up]When the locales that supported Trump the most being to suffer the consequences of it, we should put up "Well, YOU voted Trump." billboards.

edited 18th Nov '16 7:05:11 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#156393: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:05:24 AM

[up] 'Scandal' is too much of a word considering that the media has been ignoring it as hard as they can.

@ the other news, well democracy is truly dead in America... thus the 250 year old experiment ends in resounding failure.

edited 18th Nov '16 7:09:22 AM by Memers

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156394: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:06:41 AM

[up] Of course they are. According to their Clinton Rules, it's only a scandal if it can be traced back to a Clinton or a Clinton associate.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#156395: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:07:30 AM

Yet more proof that this election was rigged - against Hillary. In more ways than one. And now everyone, American or not, is going to suffer because of it.

Oh, remember those Trump University lawsuits that the P*ssy-Grabber-In-Chief swore he wasn't going to settle? Because he never settles, ever?

He's settling.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#156396: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:11:55 AM

HA. I loathe for-profit scam schools, good to see this isn't just going to drop, at least.

edited 18th Nov '16 7:12:07 AM by Pseudopartition

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#156397: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:14:08 AM

Without admitting wrongdoing, though. He's trying to avoid the bad press that would come of him actually making a court appearance- making it look like a 'this lawsuit was bullshit, but it makes more sense to just pay up and get rid of the issue than draw attention to it by fighting it' thing.

But, really, this was always a fairly likely outcome. I imagine nobody involved was looking forward to the nightmare that jury selection would've beennote , just for starters.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#156398: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:15:12 AM

Yeah, this is a terrible outcome. We needed all of that shit to be aired far and wide.

Depending on how the next few years go, i may just give up on politics altogether.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#156399: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:19:13 AM

Rep. Mike Pompeo has been selected as CIA director.

Anyone know who this guy is?

[up] I'm already considering going silent about my political views, because in the kind of crony-capitalist oligarchy Trump seems to be building, political dissidents don't get jobs, at the minimum.

edited 18th Nov '16 7:22:22 AM by CaptainCapsase

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#156400: Nov 18th 2016 at 7:21:09 AM

[up] Well, he's a torture advocate for one thing.

edited 18th Nov '16 7:22:09 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised

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