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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155926: Nov 16th 2016 at 6:52:35 PM

Trump has been compared to Silvio Berlusconi too.

Maybe we should be asking Italians for tips on how to do deal with life under Trump.

edited 16th Nov '16 6:53:14 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155927: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:00:42 PM

On 9/11, terrorists flew two planes into the World Trade Center and attempted to hit the pentagon with another one. Their goal was to instill within us a great and terrible fear. They wanted to paralyze our foreign efforts by getting us to tear ourselves apart with fear and hate. They wanted to create a culture war between Western civilization and Muslims everywhere. If Trump creates this registration database, then the terrorists truly have won.

As I've thought about this turn of events more and more, I realize now that fear is the central emotion behind all of this. There's hate too, but more on that later.

Humans are naturally panicky. We fear everything that we don't know and that we haven't been thought to believe is normal. When something goes wrong, we instantly look for someone to blame. And we will almost always blame those who are different from us in some way, because we don't understand them. Because we don't know them, because we don't understand their experiences, it's easy to just not register them as a person and see this as an "us vs them" in our minds. And when people are afraid, they don't act rationally. When you're consumed by fear, you do things that you wouldn't have done otherwise just to put that fear at bay.

And that fear leads to hate. I think that in a lot of cases you can't really separate the two, because they feed into one another. Antisemitism is old as time, but the most powerful example of it in recent recorded history was motivated by fear, fear that they were destroying Germany. White supremacism exists because of certain white people's fragile conception of self, to the point where anyone different from them is a threat against their identity. There's a reason why various "isms" actually have "phobia" attached to the end.

Donald Trump's rise was a triumph of fear.

If we see the twilight of human civilization this century, it will have been fear, ignorance and apathy that got us there.

edited 16th Nov '16 7:03:10 PM by Draghinazzo

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#155928: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:05:58 PM

If we see the twilight of human civilization this century, it will have been fear, ignorance and apathy that got us there.
.....Or just the electoral college. tongue

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155929: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:08:02 PM

The worst part is, you're not really wrong to say that.

If the US didn't have the electoral college, we would have averted this disaster.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#155930: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:08:57 PM

Trump's transition team has yet to call either the Pentagon or the State Department.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/politics/donald-trump-transition-lobbyists-confusion/index.html

Maybe we'll all get lucky, and the Trump admin will only horribly mismanage things, instead of malevolently tearing down human civilization?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155931: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:09:34 PM

I hope so, but it's been pointed out that they can easily do both at the same time.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155932: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:12:20 PM

I'm not sure what would be worse: civilization ending due to malice or incompetence.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#155933: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:13:23 PM

You know what...I was just thinking, even if I *was* a racist straight white male, why the absolute FUCK would I want someone as incompetent as Trump in office? Like, the return to the good old days might come with the possibility of nuclear winter and much more...

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155934: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:14:42 PM

[up] That's what me and a friend of mine were discussing last week.

Even if you were super racist, is Donald Trump really the person you want to represent you? The guy's a complete joke.

edited 16th Nov '16 7:14:54 PM by Draghinazzo

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#155935: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:14:47 PM

Because you would rather see the world end in nuclear fire than shake hands with a black person.

Besides, you live in the country. It's going to be those city folks that get hit by the bombs. And most of them are the minorities you hate.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155936: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:16:08 PM

Random racist asshole: "Those damn <insert racist or sexist expletive> are just trying to make him look bad since they know he'll put them in their place!"

edited 16th Nov '16 7:16:28 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#155937: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:17:13 PM

I'm not sure what would be worse: civilization ending due to malice or incompetence.

It's basically the choice between a driver who's asleep at the wheel, and a driver who's actively trying to crash the car. Just different roads to the same destination - that destination being, everybody involved being completely fucked.

If - and though I dread to say it, when - the government implements a nationwide Muslim registry, that will officially be it as far as I'm concerned. The U.S. will have turned into a fascist nation, and things will only get worse.

And they'll grease it through at first, as this thread points out. It'll come by inches. Same with all of the other horrible civil rights violations Trump and his cronies are going to try to implement. One little step at a time, and only when you look back do you realize how much we've lost.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#155938: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:21:13 PM

I'm starting to wonder if deep down, some here actually want an apocalypse scenario to happen just so they get the honor of saying "I told you so" right before the blast hits?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155939: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:22:23 PM

I foresee many, many, more protests in the future. And they are not going to be pretty, even by the standards of protests.

[up] If I happen to be in earshot of a Trump supporter, my last words will be "Don't blame me. I voted for Hillary Clinton."

edited 16th Nov '16 7:24:32 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#155940: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:24:04 PM

I think that the worst feeling for me, especially in relation to climate change, is that my generation is going to get hit just as hard as it does for everyone despite us not having a hand in this and we're going to have to be the ones who will have to pick up the mess afterwards.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155941: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:24:54 PM

[up][up][up] No, not really.

If anything I Told You So is an extremely cold comfort.

edited 16th Nov '16 7:25:16 PM by Draghinazzo

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155942: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:25:27 PM

[up][up] Just pray that Peter Thiel's insane ideas of using young people blood to rejuvenate older people don't bear fruit.

edited 16th Nov '16 7:25:44 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#155943: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:27:44 PM

[up] That's not especially insane, unless you're talking on an institutional scale. It would certainly help with the issue of the supreme court judges in their twilight years.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#155944: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:36:23 PM

I mean, if it was voluntary, sure.

But mandatory? I'd have to draw the line there.

Oh God! Natural light!
TropesForever God forbid women do anything from wait where is she Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
God forbid women do anything
#155945: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:40:28 PM

We really don't want an immortal Trump.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#155946: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:45:40 PM

Pretty sure the young are more than capable of revolting in that situation.tongue Repressing the demographic that makes up the bulk of your armed forces is probably a stupid idea.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#155947: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:46:11 PM

I emailed one of my Congresspeople about the Bannon appointment. I encourage you all to do the same.

edited 16th Nov '16 7:46:40 PM by speedyboris

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#155948: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:47:19 PM

This conversation took a weird turn.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155949: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:48:31 PM

[up][up][up] I just hope the economy doesn't get so bad that selling themselves as bloodbags to rich old people becomes one of the only viable ways young people will be able to earn a living.

edited 16th Nov '16 7:48:52 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#155950: Nov 16th 2016 at 7:48:57 PM

[up][up][up] I think a physical letter might be better, actually - there's a guarantee that they'll at least open the envelope.

At least, I think this is the case - I'm not entirely sure. Can anyone else confirm?

edited 16th Nov '16 7:49:25 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!

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