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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
That, and a lot of Republicans do believe it is an issue but are silenced by the angry hordes of primary voters and propaganda machines. You may notice that a lot of the believers are not currently in office.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
They also don't think it's something that will seriously affect them in their lifetimes, essentially telling the whole world that it's Somebody Else's Problem and screwing over future generations in the process.
edited 16th Nov '16 3:00:27 PM by kkhohoho
"Don't bother me with that climate change bullshit; I'm too busy waging race and class warfare."
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I remember hearing a rumor that Pence specifically believes that it's our God-given right to use up the planet's resources, then Jesus will come down and save us in the second coming. But I've been unable to find a proper source for it so, grain of salt.
Oil-industry lobbying is probably a pretty huge factor, people just don't seem to realize that economic health is directly tied to environmental health, and misreporting convincing people that climate change isn't a decided issue (that's related to the whole mistrust of experts thing, plus the idea that impartiality in the media means giving both sides equal space, both of which are ignorant of actual fact). And like, we're really bad as a species at planning for the distant future.
Hey, at least the Kochs have stopped denying it, after they spent a couple of decades funneling millions of dollars into denial groups.
We're saved, everybody!
edited 16th Nov '16 3:19:27 PM by Pseudopartition
Yes, as a consequence of those things, you're going to see massive famines later in the 21st century if nothing is done, and probably the breakdown of civil society in many parts of the world.
Okay we're going to see massive famines no matter what at this point, but it's the difference between millions of people dying and billions of people dying.
edited 16th Nov '16 3:55:21 PM by CaptainCapsase
Question. Assuming Trump doesn't manage to keep the Republican population at large happy with him, but also manages to serve the full four years without getting impeached (or killed, if we're being frank, though I wouldn't wish that even on him), what happens in 2020 if he wants to run again? The Dems would have a strong case against Trump in that event, sure, but is it conceivable that the Republicans decide they've had it with Trump and field someone else to run against him?
I mean, I can't think of an instance where a president that was both up for reelection and actually wanted another term didn't become their party's de facto candidate, but I'm pretty sure there Ain't No Rule against it...
Warmer oceans and stuff contributes to greater extremes of weather, warm and cold. There was a congressman a few years back who brought a snowball in from outside (DC, which doesn't usually get big snow, got one) to "proove" that global warming was malarky. Also, greater drought, greater floods, possible resource conflicts in poorer nations over water, stuff like that.
I remember reading about it happening at least once but forget when and whom.
edited 16th Nov '16 4:00:07 PM by Elle
Trump and his Death Eaters are reportedly talking about the Muslim registry again
, only they'd call it something different and put a fresh coat of paint on it in order to have it pass Constitutional muster.
This is terrifying. At this point, I don't see how anyone can say that the Hitler parallels are unfounded.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."The problem is Godwin's Law. People have become desensitized to comparisons with the Nazi party and Hitler, mostly because EVERYONE does it, especially when it's not warranted.
And so when someone who's actually similar to Hitler in some ways comes along, they don't really buy it. I think many of them don't want to believe he's that bad, because accepting it as an Awful Truth would be devastating.
edited 16th Nov '16 4:09:46 PM by Draghinazzo
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Maybe you're thinking of Teddy Roosevelt vs Taft in the 1912 election that they both ultimately lost to Woodrow Wilson? Though it wasn't consecutive, more like Roosevelt came back after letting Taft rule but the conservative Republican wing didn't want him back.
edited 16th Nov '16 4:21:24 PM by AlleyOop
"Question. Assuming Trump doesn't manage to keep the Republican population at large happy with him, but also manages to serve the full four years without getting impeached (or killed, if we're being frank, though I wouldn't wish that even on him), "
Hang on, how many folks will suffer and die because Trump is inexperienced and ruinous?
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.There's more to it?
I think I remember hearing that even if the world were limited to the 2 degree celsius increase, a lot of plants and fruit bearing trees and such would have their growth stunted and ability to be used for food impaired as a result.
Add on the fact that a lot of pollinating insects are already struggling in part because of the chemicals used on farms and other environmental causes, and there's a potentially major kink in our ability to continue feeding people as the century goes on.
(Keep in mind all of this is second hand, and by no means am I a botanist or environmental expert. Take the above with a grain of salt.)
Lots. Far, far too many preventable deaths will happen because of Trump.
edited 16th Nov '16 4:29:31 PM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |So much for 'Draining the Swamp', am I right?
edited 16th Nov '16 5:08:12 PM by DingoWalley1

I still don't get the climate denialism. Do they actually not believe in it or do they just not care?
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison