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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#155576: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:27:01 PM

Evan Mc Mullin was still a person that happened, Thenardier.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#155577: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:27:25 PM

On the subject of nuclear power, I've heard that thorium reactors make for a good and relatively easily controllable means of generating fission-based nuclear energy. Thorium is also a much more common reagent than uranium and frequently appears as a byproduct of rare earth metal mining. However, they doesn't have the potential generate weapons-grade plutonium like uranium reactors do, so they don't have many advocates in government.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#155578: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:29:02 PM

@155546: Yeah, that's one thing that bugs me about US politics: Eco-topics seem to be too "boring" for both the average voter and average politician to concern themselves with, unlike much more "important" issues like "protecting AMERICAN culture's purity from evil immigrants" and the like.

I believe people can change.
I'll add one thing that I think hasn't been said already in respone to this: Change isn't always good. Trying to use reason to prove the wrongness of a racist/xenophobes's beliefs can just as likely cause them to dive deeper into their pit of racism/xenophobia as it's likely to would induce a My God, What Have I Done? moment that leads to a Heel–Face Turn. Scientists have conducted several studies which strongly indicate the human mind is naturally wired to either reject information that contradicts its deep-seated beliefs or work around and reinterpret the new data in often illogical/irrational ways to force them to fit said beliefs, rather than make corrections to or even completely dispose of old ideas.

edited 15th Nov '16 5:29:43 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155579: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:29:17 PM

As someone with several Mormon relatives, I can confirm that this is true. Utah still voted for him, which isn't surprising, but I wouldn't be surprised if he still was very unpopular there on the whole.

MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Searching
#155580: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:29:18 PM

Evan Mc Mullin was still a person that happened, Thenardier.
And he was creamed in Utah. Trump got the majority of the Mormon vote.

They're still against nuclear power. Nuclear has zero carbon emissions; environmentalists should be supporting it
Nuclear isn't being used because it's not economically efficient compared to wind or solar (not to say that the far left being as anti-science as the far right is acceptable mind, this just isn't their fault). Nuclear reactors in the US are currently unprofitable. They can't even pay back their operating/maintenance cost due to competition with renewables, leading to large shutdowns recently. Heck, here in California nuclear reactors have to pay the utilities company take their energy during solar peak times.

edited 15th Nov '16 5:30:02 PM by MonsieurThenardier

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155581: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:31:37 PM

It does speak to their hipocrisy but it's not particularly surprising that in a contest between "lesser evils" they'd just fall in line with the Republican candidate as they do always.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#155582: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:35:00 PM

I've actually have had a hypothesis that Romney would exploit Trump and his supporters' fanaticism to ride back into prominence by appealing as the Only Sane Man to mainstream society.

edited 15th Nov '16 5:35:30 PM by FluffyMcChicken

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155583: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:35:10 PM

Aaron Burr was born hundreds of years too early.

[BURR] Talk less!

Smile more!

Don’t let ‘em know what you’re against or what you’re for!

Shake hands with him!

Charm her!

It’s eighteen hundred, ladies, tell your husbands: vote for Burr!

Disgusted, but not surprised
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#155584: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:36:34 PM

Considering that he only showed up a couple months before the election, he did surprisingly well. I'm actually kind of curious if he's going to continue seeking office in other places in Utah.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#155585: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:39:37 PM

How much of Utah is Mormons by the way?

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#155586: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:41:14 PM

According to Wikipedia, a little over sixty percent of it are members of the Mormon Church at this moment.

edited 15th Nov '16 5:43:26 PM by AceofSpades

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#155587: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:46:52 PM

Re: Environmental issues. The EPA, like vaccines, have done too good a job doing their job and not a good enough job telling people about it. People have forgotten that rivers used to catch on fire before environmental policies were put in place.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#155588: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:51:27 PM

Though this year hasn't been the best for them either. See: Flint, Michigan, Dakota Access Pipeline, etc.

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155589: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:53:27 PM

The EPA is gonna get a whole lot worse since Trump wants to put a climate-change denier in charge...

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#155590: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:58:48 PM

And that's assuming he doesn't flat out abolish the agency.

I don't think the US has ever had an administration (in living memory) that's been as flat out evil as Trump's is going to be.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#155591: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:59:37 PM

The prospect of Breitbart becoming a mainstream media outlet due to presidential favoritism is terrifying, as is other outlets following them down that rabbit hole in order to retain their access to the Trump administration.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155592: Nov 15th 2016 at 5:59:46 PM

[up][up] Evil and incompetent.

"We've had vicious kings and we've had idiot kings, but l don't know if we've ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a king."

edited 15th Nov '16 6:00:06 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#155593: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:01:42 PM

They don't even come across as incompetent, their bankrupt ideology merely commands counter-productive policies that are so moronic that it comes across as being done out of spite.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#155594: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:01:44 PM

[up][up][up]Access....wtf do they need access for anyway. It's not like any of them actually do journalism. [tdown]

edited 15th Nov '16 6:01:53 PM by nightwyrm_zero

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#155595: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:04:01 PM

[up][up]Really, a lot of the bad stuff happening these days is just done out of spite.

edited 15th Nov '16 6:04:36 PM by StarOutlaw

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#155596: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:07:15 PM

[up][up][up] I would say they're displaying incompetence right now given that people keep leaving their appointments, among other things. People are afraid to be associated with this dumpster of an administration because they think it'll kill their careers.

That may not last but it's at best highly disfunctional and speaks poorly of their ability to actually govern the country.

edited 15th Nov '16 6:08:04 PM by Draghinazzo

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155597: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:13:53 PM

Apparently even Ben Carson doesn't want to be part of this administration. One of his friends claimed that Carson thinks he lacks the experience to take a high level government job.

Considering the guy ran for President, that's obviously a bullshit excuse. The real reason is probably because even he realizes the Trump administration is a horror show.

Disgusted, but not surprised
dysphere Since: Jan, 2015
#155598: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:23:12 PM

The Trump administration also has a site in which anyone can apply and it doesn't look like there's much vetting involved. They're way in over their heads.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#155599: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:23:59 PM

[up] Hmm...nah. Probably shouldn't. Not worth the hassle just for the opportunity to sneak in whoopie cushions at cabinet meetings.

edited 15th Nov '16 6:24:43 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#155600: Nov 15th 2016 at 6:32:37 PM

I know a couple of people who've put in applications under the name of fictional characters for a laugh, sparnetly it's totally open for anyone to apply under any name and with any details.

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