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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Her wonkishness got the better of her. During the debates, she kept telling people to look at her policies on her website. Which I get, policy details are complicated and not really suitable for a 30 second soundbite, but it made her sound like an unhelpful DMV employee. People are lazy and doing actual research is difficult to a lot of people, especially the older folks.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:54:18 PM by nightwyrm_zero
Indeed, that was the most frustrating part of me watching her during the debates. I mean, being the kind of person I am I appreciate that she's thorough and rational like that, but most Americans don't have the time, understanding, or mindset to think that way. She didn't have a means of concisely shutting Trump down on the spot like that. And that hurt her.
Texas..... Is no longer issuing birth certificates to children of illegal immigrants.
With no document to prove their US soil birth, these citizens have no way of proving their citizenship.
This is clearly a violation of civil rights isn't it?
edited 14th Nov '16 5:56:14 AM by blkwhtrbbt
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for youThat's in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment isn't it?
Technically it says nothing about issuing birth certificates, but isn't that kinda what they're for?
edited 12th Nov '16 2:45:42 PM by AlleyOop
Blkwht: I assume you meant "issuing". Maybe check for grammar next time.
Anyway, a link would be appreciated. In fact, I'd appreciate if all such radical claims came with a link on such things. It was pretty easy to google and get something from NPR and MSNBC, so like... could you do that next time? Instead of just saying a thing and letting us speculate with no actual information? This is something I ask of everyone in the thread, because it happens a lot.
In any case, it doesn't sound like the judge himself was entirely happy with his own decision. It remains to be seen if any couple will take this up to a higher court and truly bring a challenge to the concept of "born on American soil."
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2016/01/08/birth-certificate-rule-change-frustrates
It's also about whether or not Mexican ID can count as valid ID in Texas hospitals, apparently. And it's not a requirement to deny, just it can continue to be done.
edited 12th Nov '16 3:21:28 PM by AceofSpades
edited 12th Nov '16 11:57:27 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."1) Because no poor person has ever been interested in affordable education, and education has never been a thing that helps people get into well paying jobs? I'm calling bullshit on that one.
2) No, actually, that's not anything that's been indicated and is generally just a fear mongering claim from the right that hasn't been proven. Minimum wages have been depressed for something like thirty years, relative to the rising cost of living just about anywhere. Regardless of whether or not we'd have gotten fifteen dollars an hour, we desperately need a push to raise the minimum wage at the federal level.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-climatechange-accord-idUSKBN1370JX
Trump is trying to find a fast way out of the Paris Accords...
@ [1]
That article is trying to set up the elections/reactions of/to Trump to be equivalent to that of Obama.
And in some ways, you're right. Surface level reactions are pretty similar. Panic, riots, protest.
However, there is a fundamental difference. Obama wasn't someone who wanted to ban Christianity and throw everyone's guns in the ocean. He wasn't a secret Muslim or from Kenya.
Most of the reasons that people are worried about Trump are based on everything he's said and done during his entire campaign.
The system with which we pay for college now is far more progressive than the actual tax system.
http://www.igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel
https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/113th-congress-2013-2014/reports/44995-MinimumWage.pdf
More professional economists surveyed than not agree that a $9 would be bad for unskilled employment. The CBO estimated that a minimum wage increase of $1.75 to $9.00 would cause 100,000 job losses, and an increase of of $2.85 to $10.10 would cause 500,000 job losses, disproportionately concentrated in the demographic of young minorities. The number of jobs lost accelerates geometrically as the minimum wage hike increases linearly. $15 as proposed by the party's left wing is absolutely insane. That's more than 25% higher than Australia's.
If you don't believe those fancy-shmancy economists, just look at the real world. You know what the OECD countries with the highest minimum wage relative to median wage are? Turkey, Chile, and France. They all have high youth unemployment rates of 19%, 17%, and 25% respectively. Fifth on the list is New Zealand with a youth unemployment rate of 16%. Luxembourg has 15%. Australia, which has a very strong economy and wasn't hit nearly as hard in 2008 as anyone else, and only has a minimum wage equivalent to about 9.50 USD, still has a youth unemployment rate over 12%.
Or look at Puerto Rico. When the US imposed its federal minimum wage on Puerto Rico, growth and employment nosedived. The minimum wage essentially stopped PR's export based industrialization in its tracks and caused thirty years of economic stagnation, a fact that is well documented.
Today their youth unemployment rate is almost 30% despite hundreds of thousands of young people leaving for mainland US in droves!
It's also rather ironic that opposition to really high minimum wages has become known as a right wing belief. Do you know who the first big advocates for a minimum wage were in the Anglosphere? Do you know why it was so high in the first place? It had a specific purpose back then. It involved minorities.
edited 17th Nov '16 12:55:56 AM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."

@Pseudopartisan: Ideally there should be no minimum wage, but extensive protection for organized labor and a strong social safety net such that workers can negotiate with employers for a fair wage on relatively equal ground.
That's politically impossible in the United States however, so minimum wage increases are what we have to do.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:47:13 PM by CaptainCapsase