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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'd prefer a hybrid approach. Progressives, and Centrists, just so the far-left doesn't go too far outside of reality and to cater certain Democrats to specific regions.
A Democrat from California has entirely different sets of priorities than one from, say, Missouri or even West Virginia.
New Survey coming this weekend!A state-by-state approach like the one Howard Dean is suggesting would be the best approach, yes. As we've seen the country has a ton of Values Dissonance to get through, unsurprising since it's so big. Clinton's platform was a little one-size-fits-all.
Eerily this all reminds me of what happened to Eric Cantor in 2014, who was Senate Majority Leader until he got voted out of his senatorship because Virginians thought he focused too much on Congress and not enough on issues at the local level. We all laughed when that happened, but the Democrats didn't actually take the underlying lesson to heart.
edited 12th Nov '16 12:16:50 PM by AlleyOop
Lol, that's pretty much what his point is. The Democrats can't run completely slap shod, they have to focus on Local Level issues.
Which is probably why Chuck Schumer, who IS a Centrist, and the Leader of the party in the Senate, is backing Sanders and Warren's post-electoral choice for DNC chair, as Ellison's focus is to do Town Halls and the proverbial barn raising, essentially. Sanders' pretty much points out the party ignored local level concerns of their Voter base.
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Beck has become a lot more reasonable compared to who he used to be. He's stated that he thought backing Clinton was the only ethical decision to be made in this election, apologized for accusing Obama of hating white people, and said that now he has a better understanding of the struggles of african americans and how difficult it was for him to listen to them.
He's not perfect but he's not really a nutjob anymore.
edited 12th Nov '16 12:15:12 PM by Draghinazzo
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Huh. Really? News to me. The main image I have of him is that gibbering nutcase writing circles on a chalk board to connect two completely disparate concepts, and that doing so somehow proved Obama was a secret Muslim Communist Kenyan.
Still though, Ted Cruz. This shit was recent.
edited 12th Nov '16 12:17:32 PM by Gault
yeySo, Glenn Beck just pulled a Heel–Face Turn?
The world has gone mad when Beck has gone sane.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Yeah Beck is proof now that some people on the right are strait up crazy, as he's started getting medicated for his issues he's become much more reasonable.
Beck, proof that all that stands being the right wing nutjobs and the rest of us is taking ones meds.
edited 12th Nov '16 12:19:39 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranSo, should we start slipping some medication on the food and water of the Republicans and maybe in the water supply of a few red states?
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Which is funny because, when I dealt with conspiracy theorists, it was painfully obvious a few of them had a mental illness of some sort, specially suffering from paranoia and bipolar disorders.
edited 12th Nov '16 12:27:27 PM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesIIRC Beck has been very understanding to BLM's message and got a ton of shit from the right for it. Proof that people can grow, if nothing else. He's still pretty tinpotty but I find myself agreeing with the core of his message.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?Granted, what I'm hearing is that Beck got medication for a condition that would literally rob him of mental functionality if untreated - not exactly something your average conspiracy theorist suffers from.
Rust Belt voters: Well, you'll have to sell them sense. The question is - how? And with what?
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotSo, is there anywhere to compare how Wikileaks framed something in an email and to what was actually happening? Because I've talked to this guy who basically seemed to be accepting them as fact and thinks that DNC/Clinton did in fact rig things against Sanders.
This isn't for him though; there's basically nothing to be said to him that could convince him isn't just a corporate shill with no substance. This is just for myself.
You know, since Trump opened the door for celebrities to boldly seek the presidency... I can't help but wonder about Arnold Schwarzenegger running for the office. He served as Governor of California from 2003 to 2011, right? How well did he do?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Investment in solar power plants and installation to replace coal is one thing I can think of, but I'm not sure how efficient that would be. It's something people've been talking about for a while now.
A narrative the Democrats might like to pursue is "green energy = more jobs", traditional manufacturing and coal industry is going to die whether you like it or not while renewables are still possibly new enough of an industry that they still require manpower instead of machines.
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Didn't the Californian government collapse for a period under him? Either way he can't run for president because he wasn't born here and the rules stipulate you have to be either born here or born to at least one US citizen parent. Though he was more of a social progressive big business guy than xenophobe, and had climate change in mind as seen by his carbon credits plan, so I'd accept him and Romney steering the Republican Party over the current nutjobs.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:07:06 PM by AlleyOop
Arnie's out of the question because he wasn't born in America.
I would however trust him a lot more than I would most Republicans because he said that he couldn't vote for Trump in good conscience and his views are mostly the result of growing up in communist eastern europe, which means I understand why he joined the Republican party to begin with.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:04:58 PM by Draghinazzo
The GOP has left Arnie behind, entirely. He believes in green energy/climate change, is mostly pro-choice, supports contraception access, at least supports same-sex partnerships (if not marriages), supports other LGBT rights including adoption, for medical weed, is very pro-gun control, and so forth.
He's a fiscal, tough on crime and immigration Republican in the Ronald Reagan mold. But his social positions have effectively made him a pariah in the party, though he's essentially left politics due to personal scandals/term limits.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Also, I see more and more people who get out of university who can't get a decent job after graduating.
It's hard to argue that capitalism in its current form is sustainable. People can talk about trickle-down economics all they want, but instead we got massive wealth inequality, and a small minority of people with more money than they could ever hope to use.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:33:32 PM by Pseudopartition
So this means there is at least one prediction The Simpsons didn't get right?
It is argued under a Keynesian style economic policy, the gains with the increase consumer purchasing power provided by the workers being paid more would outstrip the inflationary pressure of the wage rise.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:37:29 PM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesOnly because they were ripping off Demolition Man.
edited 12th Nov '16 1:40:54 PM by Deadbeatloser22
"Yup. That tasted purple."

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From what he's saying in that post, and the few things I've seen from him during this campaign, I understood that part to be "since I've been in that place of fanaticism and realized how bad that was, I think I can help other people get out of this polarization".
1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV