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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Remember, the UK was once the most powerful country of the world....nowadays it is even questionable if it will be the UK for much longer.
Worldwide most likely not, if for no other reason than most of the EU states have little interest in interfering in other countries unless they feel they absolutely have to. At least not in short time...but let's assume that the EU survives the current trouble and continues to prosper. Than I am ready to bet that nearly every state in Europe is part of it in 30 years, and after that it is only a matter of time until it expands even further, starting with Africa.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:08:04 PM by Swanpride
The U.S. is a democracy. By design, it is less resistant to change than a dictatorship.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Trump indicates he would like to keep the "no denying preexisting conditions" and "children get to be on their parents' insurance" parts of Obamacare.
Man I don't even know what to think anymore. Dude is a literal wildcard at this point.
@Angelus Nox
Let's hope India can pick up some of the geopolitical slack.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:15:10 PM by AlleyOop
Russia is a dictatorship in all but name and China is in the hands of the PRC chairman and is also a dictatorship in all but name.
They aren't going to change soon and not for better, specially China which isn't above killing thousands of their own groups to fuel organ trading markets.
Inter arma enim silent leges@Swan: The EU is more or less untenable from a geopolitical perspective; far too many member states have conflicting interests for it to be held together voluntarily over the long term. There's a reason in thousands of years of European history, the bulk of the continent has only been united for a long period of time Once, and those reasons are starting to rear their ugly heads again after a few decades of peace.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:23:16 PM by CaptainCapsase
Considering that the EU was never supposed to work, I wouldn't bet on it. Nothing keeps partner closer together than success...and the EU has become so interwoven economically, the member states have to find some sort of agreement.
The EU doesn't have much hard power (mostly because it doesn't want to), but I wouldn't underestimate the soft power. I wouldn't be surprise that between all the posturing the alliance of states which mostly looks at the long term gain and consequences will emerge as the strongest in the very end (the very end being in around 100 years).
No. NO. NO!!! The rest is fine. But military intervention with a democratic (or an electoral college) result is the one and only thing worse for the stability of a republic's democratic institutions than a demagogue like Trump. I say this from the history of my country, where the army deposed the demagogue Juan D. Perón in 1955. And then they took a liking to removing presidents whenever their policies weren't to the liking of the military high command.
1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KVIs Trump going to be as inconsistent DURING his presidency as he was during his campaign? It seems like he says whatever he thinks different people will like at the time.
If I might ask an uninformed question, what does the GOP get out of repealing Obamacare anyways other than giving him and the Dems the middle finger?
Seconding this. You guys do not want the military to have to intervene. It could spell DISASTROUS consequences.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:30:05 PM by Draghinazzo
Not gonna lie, really hoping for Keith Ellison for DNC chair.
I mean, seriously. If there's somebody who knows how to turn red states blue.
Read in yesterday's NY Times that after an initial massive dip due to Tuesday's election fears, they've seem to have balanced out to a somewhat comfortable rate.
Keith Ellison is intelligent and has a decent track record but other than that what exactly does he have to offer other than ticking off demographic boxes? I'm not sure if the strategy that got him elected to Minnesota can be repeated on a national scale, but for now I think Dean's approach is a lot more pragmatic.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:35:36 PM by AlleyOop
Yes. Because he has no f*cking idea what he's doing and probably didn't want the position anyway. He's sorely unqualified for the role of President and he knows it. It's why he promised so much power to Mike Pence. Look at the photos of him touring the White House. He is terrified of what the next four years are going to bring.
In the linked article, his opinion on Obamacare changed because of an afternoon's conversation with President Obama. That's all it took, because Trump doesn't know the Oval Office from his ass but Obama does. This might not be the last time Trump courts Obama's advice and changes his position based on what he hears.
As much as the GOP would cringe to hear it, Obama is the President that Trump wants to tell himself he could be.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:38:28 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.So from what I understand, Electors still need to "appoint" Trump as a definite Obama's replacement.
But I've also been told that they don't have to and they could very well appoint someone else (like Clinton). Is there any reason why they would do that? If so, what kind of results can be expected?
I mean, Trump getting Obama's advice is probably a good thing for you guys, right?
edited 11th Nov '16 2:39:01 PM by FergardStratoavis
So many electors would have to defect at this point that it's about as likely as a rat fart burning down the American Midwest.
But it would be an amazing Hail Mary. Imagine it: getting Clinton into office and a smoking gun for Congress to wipe out the Electoral College all in one go.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I will laugh my ass off if Obama wins the Trump tug of war with Pence.
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The risk is it would potentially be a Pyrrhic victory that would taint and delegitimize the Democratic Party for all eternity. Persistent rumors that they were bribed by the Democrats, that it disregards the will of the people (Clinton only won the popular vote by 0.2%), etc.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:48:18 PM by AlleyOop
Yeah sorry bout that I am just really scared of what the GOP and trump are capable of. What I'm most concerned about is the herd-of-cats syndrome the left has here in its inability to organize that's why there needs to be a plan put in place asap for an effective opposition. I really don't believe that the democrats are going to be able to be effective going forward without massive intervention from its base.

Doesn't matter how you put it but I can't see the US losing influence to Russia and China as something good.
For all the shit the US does those two manage to be worse. Maybe the EU should take the lead but that isn't happening.
edited 11th Nov '16 2:04:03 PM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent leges