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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
What is harder for the CIA to put up a coup in Latin American is finding the need to.
We pretty much ousted most of our left wing politicians and the ones left are either incredibly unpopular like Maduro in Venezuela, which the US has spent the last 8 years showing it doesn't really give a fuck about, Colombia has a semi leftist one but he doesn't seem to be running on Anti-Americanism. Brazil just ousted Dilma and put someone who'd have no problems with dealing with the US, Argentina just elected a right wing president (by South American standards) and countries like Ecuador and Bolivia are too insignificant to even bother.
Since the Soviet Union is gone and there isn't really a tug-of-war with other super power for proxies, there aren't that many reasons to stage Cold War Era coups in Latin America.
Inter arma enim silent leges@Ninety: You have the Obameter
There aren't, but you have to remember you're talking about a Trump administration. Which could very well fuck up hard enough that China (or Germany!) looks more appealing that the unholy Russo-American alliance.
edited 10th Nov '16 5:24:24 PM by CaptainCapsase
In other news, Trump's fraud trial is apparently going ahead.
The judge did say that it would be a good idea for the sides to settle out of court, but there's no legal way to stop this from going forward other than that.
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Trump can destroy the Canadian and Mexican economies with the stroke of a pen. Trump's neighbors have to live with the consequences of the American people's stupidity.
Its economic. And his statements were typical cordial things, the US won't invade Canada, or even Mexico.
edited 10th Nov '16 5:27:24 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.It would not surprise me in the slightest if Trump got elected for another term, even with the country going to shit. It happened with W. Bush, and if the US was foolish enough to elect him at all, they can do so again.
That shouldn't be cause for defeatism or not trying your best to prevent that outcome but as depressing as this is to say I would try to brace yourself for 8 years of Trump if it comes to that. The incumbent historically has the advantage after all.
It's really depressing for me because I'll be in my 30's by the time it's over.
Oh, and in answer to the question of how Trumplings feel about Asian-Americans, just found this.
An Asian-American woman in Minnesota was assaulted by a Trump supporter who screamed at her to go back to Asia. When she tried to defend herself, the police were summoned and she was immediately handcuffed.
You know that feeling you got in The Deathly Hallows when Voldemort has won, and the Death Eaters are running the show? That is legitimately how I feel right now. Everything is being corrupted before our very eyes, with terrifying speed.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."W Bush had 9/11 and a strong economy to help him, Trump won't have either of those.
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If the armed forces/secret service back him we get a civil war. If not he gets locked out and that's it.
edited 10th Nov '16 5:31:51 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranOur only solace is that Trump and his followers don't have evil magic powers, and that Trump doesn't have horcruxes.
I'm not wishing death on anyone but i wouldn't be that surprised if Trump ended up having a heart attack or something during his presidency. His health isn't in very good shape.
edited 10th Nov '16 5:31:50 PM by Draghinazzo
@Silas: There's several things a Trump administration could do that would produce the appearance of a good economy while creating a colossal bubble, and don't underestimate the ability of the American military-industrial complex to manufacture a cause for war.
edited 10th Nov '16 5:32:54 PM by CaptainCapsase
The problem is aligning with China is how China is only interested in commodities like soy, oil and iron and selling their cheap stuff. As long as China gets that they don't give a fuck about South America. They know they can't project their power here physically, just economically.
Russia is simply too broke to even try and we're competing with Russia with similar goods.
Europe is mostly concerned with Trading commodities but since the recession the exchange between South America and Europe dropped a lot. Europe has a large amount of protectionist measures against South American agriculture.
To be frank, South America doesn't have much to offer besides commodities, a mildly attractive export market and cheap labor. All of those things are already going to the US one way or another without the need to change the political landscape too much. Even Venezuela, which was the overtly anti-American spearheading country, kept selling cheap oil to the US because Chavez needed those Petrodollars. Brazil was already selling vegetable oil, soy, other assorted agricultural goods and iron ore to both US and China since 2000.
We don't have much choice but taking the US as a major trading partner because the US is the only one buying our stuff in bulk.
Inter arma enim silent leges

edited 10th Nov '16 5:23:05 PM by Eschaton