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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
- Premise #1: Women are highly emotional.
- Premise #2: Highly emotional people are unfit to be president.
- Conclusion from P1 and P2: Women are unfit to be president, and thus should not run for the office in the first place.
- Premise #3: People who defy the "norm" for their gender are unfit to be president.
- Premise #4: Hillary Clinton is "unemotional", which is in contravention to P1.
- Conclusion from P3 and P4: Hillary Clinton is unfit to be president.
Honestly, when disagreeing or even not being 101% on board with whatever is being parroted or whatever politician whose ass they kiss gets you to be called a "Cuck libtard nigger fagot jew! Cry me some SJW tears" repeatedly I don't blame him for trying to distance himself from that toxicity.
Since Trump won the Republican nomination being on any comment section or participating of social media is getting unbearable.
Inter arma enim silent legesTo add to this, doing so means you're avoiding the opinions of half of the country. Even if you know beforehand that you hate said opinions, it's worth knowing exactly what they are.
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!Okay, so here's some petitions aiming to get Garland appointed:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-garland-now-senate-has-waived-its-rights
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/we-people-ask-president-obama-immediately-appoint-merrick-garland-supreme-court
Don't know how effective they'd be, but I figure it's worth a shot
@Alley Oop In the case of global warming, there's still various geoengineering options to consider if things get really bad. They have various drawbacks, definitely, but we may reach a point where they're a lot better than the alternative. Getting people to agree on them is a whole different story, but it's possible.
@Link: There was no electoral fraud that we know of, but dates were shuffled about to maximize Hillary Clinton's early delegate count, among other measures that were taken to prevent someone from repeating Obama's feat in 2008. That may or may not have cost the democrats the election, and if they intend to take a real lesson from this election rather than just doubling down like the GOP until we get a hideous caricature of the social justice movement running away with the nomination a decade or two down the line, its their responsibility to seriously look at what went wrong, both in the nominating process and in the election itself.
https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/796830082564231168
James Comey likely cost us the election
Fucking christ.
New Survey coming this weekend!@Marq FJA: Based on what I saw of the interviews, I think you're both right. Some women think she's too emotional by virtue of being a woman (as a woman, she's going to react emotionally instead of rationally, she's hard-wired that way because she's a woman) and any woman is therefore biologically unfit to be president. Other women think she's a cold-hearted person who doesn't have an emotional bone in her body and is therefore incapable of making an emotional connection with the American people. And there there were people who were basically rationalising the way you just described.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Also, given the whole 'online echo chambers' thing (hell, sites like Facebook select what you see based on an algorithm), I can't help but wonder if discussions with the opposite side are a lot more productive outside of an online setting. Although, with what we've seen with some of the Trump supporters, taking care of your personal safety is also really important right now.
Two and two, maybe? S Mall enough to have personal conversation, but enough to defend yourselves if you got unlucky?
The damned queen and the relentless knight.I'd be a lot more willing to talk to a Trump voter if so many of them online weren't alt-right fuckheads who insist on throwing out insults instead of trying to have a rational conversation.
I mean I agree with Capsase's point that insulating yourself isn't productive to political activism but for myself I don't really know where I'd start.
There seems to be some panic among at least some scientists right now. I'm in a STEM career, and my American colleagues are telling me they're really nervous about their futures right now. They've already been living in an atmosphere where the Republicans have been trying to name and shame any one working in key STEM areas (climate change, renewable energy, stem-cell research or any scientific/medical field that brings a scientist into contact with foetal tissue).
I already know of one scientist who was offered a job before the election, who has been strongly advised by their own circle of American colleagues to not go into the US right now in that area - not just because of what's going on in the sciences, but also because the huge uncertainty now about things like healthcare insurance.
In light of that advice, they've turned the job down (there were a few other personal factors that weighed in on their decision, but the advice from scientific colleagues in light of the election result did ultimately tip the scales). We're not the only people over here with American STEM colleagues who are feeling this way.
edited 10th Nov '16 2:31:02 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.You have to be careful with Trump supporters, a good portion will simply insult you. Another group will threaten if not outright assault you.
Then its up to another country. The city on the hill smashed its light.
edited 10th Nov '16 2:30:28 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.I have a STEM degree and it is already being a pain in the ass to get a job in the field here, and one of the advice I got was move to the US.
edited 10th Nov '16 2:32:48 PM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesThe irony of course is that there are plenty of right-wingers pushing that STEM is the only meaningful kind of education, and that the humanities aren't worth bothering with.
Needless to say, I think all forms of education in the US are going to fucked either way.
edited 10th Nov '16 2:32:17 PM by Eschaton
It wasn't like that for other Republicans before either.
I used to be on other forums with people who supported Mc Cain back in the 08 election. I disagreed with them on a lot of things and I don't think anyone would have really been able to change their minds (or maybe they changed their views later thanks to those conversations and other things, who knows) but the conversations were at least for the most part civil. Talking with conservatives usually isn't THAT bad in my experience.
Not so with Trump.
edited 10th Nov '16 2:33:39 PM by Draghinazzo
Trump has the support of the Neo-Nazis and the KKK. Be more than careful around his supporters. Don't go near them. I'm noticing a serious lack of them in this forum, and I think that says something about the quality of this place and the quality of the people who actually support what he's selling.

edited 10th Nov '16 2:09:26 PM by Bat178