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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#148126: Nov 2nd 2016 at 9:55:46 PM

I was thinking of putting myself into a coma for the next four years.tongue Then I figured that if the world's going to burn, I'll get a front row seat/join the resistance.tongue

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#148127: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:03:43 PM

I'll live on. This country survived 12 years of Bush.

Continue writing our story of peace.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#148128: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:06:18 PM

12 years? Are you counting senior in there?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#148129: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:14:10 PM

What the fuck at 2016. Crazy election. Cleveland wins it's first Basketball championship from a 3-1 lead. Cleveland indians lose to the CUBS also down 3-1, the UK left the EU, among other things...

New Survey coming this weekend!
RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#148131: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:30:02 PM

^^ Don't forget all the beloved celebrity deaths. David Bowie, Alan Rickman, Prince, Gene Wilder...

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#148133: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:35:24 PM

And the crazy clown on the Republican ticket.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#148134: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:38:17 PM

The South Korean president being revealed to be under the control of a cult.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#148135: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:42:32 PM

[up][up] The big difference: Clowns KNOW they're being silly, Trump has no self-awareness whatsoever.

edited 2nd Nov '16 10:42:58 PM by Draghinazzo

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#148136: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:42:46 PM

And ISIS seldom being in the news anymore.

New Survey coming this weekend!
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#148137: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:54:21 PM

Semi-joking thought - could the Cubs winning the World Series mean Ohio tips to Trump becayse Cleveland fans became less happy about the world and be more inclined to vote against the incumbent party? Wasn't like there was much risk of Illinois going to Trump...

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#148138: Nov 2nd 2016 at 11:02:11 PM

Ohio is being predicted to go Trump's way in some models currently, however that along isn't enough for a Trump win, he needs to either somehow get Pennsylvania, run the gambit on the swing states, or almost get all the swing states and pick up Nevada instead of New Hampshire.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#148139: Nov 2nd 2016 at 11:16:19 PM

And of course Hil is initially from Chicago and there are already pictures of her celebrating the World Series win....

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#148140: Nov 2nd 2016 at 11:20:27 PM

Nothing new there.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#148141: Nov 2nd 2016 at 11:23:45 PM

[up][up] You make that sound like a bad thing.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#148142: Nov 2nd 2016 at 11:26:13 PM

No, I was more responding to the idea of Ohio going to Trump. Indians fans might be incensed at Cubs-loving Hil was what I was getting at.

Not like people aren't making up their minds for more arbitrary reasons.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#148143: Nov 3rd 2016 at 3:19:40 AM

@Hillary not being Liberal:

Basically the main concern is Hillary is more beholden to her Wall Street, K Street and Beltway peers, where even if she herself may hold liberal positions, she'll be less likely to act on them if her friends or major political allies give her the thumbs down, while Sanders is/was viewed as having less commitment dragging him down so he'd be less restrained from taking a hard position.

Or for example, she's very very used to squaring the circle/triangulating, which gets us her hat dancing on the Dakota pipleine where she won't say she's against it for fear of offending the unions and Democratic business allies who are for it, but she won't say she's for it as to avoid offending Democratic allied Native Americans and Environmentalist groups.

i.e. Her positions mean squat if she's unwilling to act on them when under a large microscope for fear of offending someone.

At least that's how the argument's logic follows.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#148144: Nov 3rd 2016 at 3:35:57 AM

[up] I wonder if one of the reasons Trump has been throwing out the accusations that HRC is in league with Wall Street throughout his campaign is because he's actually really envious. As Obama said in a previous rally, Trump is someone who has been trying so hard his entire life to be seen as a member of the global elite. HRC on the other hand doesn't have nearly as much capital but fits in far better with the bigshots on Wall Street because — unlike Trump — she actually understands a thing or two about the global economy.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#148145: Nov 3rd 2016 at 3:42:22 AM

because — unlike Trump — she actually understands a thing or two about the global economy.

Also about human psyche. Aside from manipulating the masses to turn them into a giant angry mob, Trump doesn't know how to relate to people without bullying them - and he can't bully the people that are richer than him.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#148146: Nov 3rd 2016 at 4:41:55 AM

I've said this before, but Trump has spent much of his life trying to get in with the Wall Street people, but he hasn't been able to, in part because he's just an unpleasant person, but also because he's a boor. Actually rich people appear to be able to tell he's full of crap, if only because Trump always goes for the gaudiest option possible, that tends to at the very least, look incredibly cheap. Like, those pictures of his apartment? They look like the smallest possible amount of money was spent to fake having spent a massive amount of money, but he missed the mark on both counts. Because he did spend a lot. It just looks awful.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#148147: Nov 3rd 2016 at 4:46:50 AM

[up] They also know he's an idiot when it comes to actual business. That's the main reason most of the top corporate elite are siding with HRC. It's not the favors she might deliver them as POTUS. It's because they trust that she won't completely screw up the global economy.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#148148: Nov 3rd 2016 at 4:49:12 AM

It's a weird case of Big Money interests lining up with the interests of democracy. After all, these people didn't become successful by being bad judges of business acumen, and anyone looking with a serious eye at Donald Trump can tell how full of shit he is.

Ergo, the only reason to follow him is if you believe that his political agenda aligns with your prejudices: in other words, you don't care how much he'd wreck the economy because you want to stick it to the dirty Jews or whatever.

edited 3rd Nov '16 4:52:53 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#148149: Nov 3rd 2016 at 4:55:52 AM

[up] One of my relatives is a banker who used to work at Wall Street. She can't stand Donald Trump — his sheer idiocy is a big part of that. She knows all too well that if Trump was in charge of America's economic policies, we'd all be screwed.

Of course she hates the sexism, the racism, and the total lack of maturity and empathy too.

edited 3rd Nov '16 4:57:29 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#148150: Nov 3rd 2016 at 5:08:00 AM

U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears

... Guys, I'm seriously worried that blood will be shed before the day the voting results are announced ends. How the f*** do you leave these people freely walking around toting guns and threatening to violently clash with the government if they don't have their way?!

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

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