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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#147726: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:41:00 AM

What would Putin have on Trump exactly? Something to do with his russian investments?

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#147727: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:41:04 AM

While I'm talking about free trade and liberalism, I thought it would be interesting to look at Clinton's historical policies toward Latin America. It.. doesn't paint a pretty picture, but from my understanding it's still perfectly consistent with modern liberalism (or rather neoliberalism).

[up]Most likely

edited 1st Nov '16 9:42:13 AM by Xopher001

Vampireandthen In love with an Uptown Girl from Northern Ireland Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
In love with an Uptown Girl
#147728: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:51:50 AM

Honestly, I wish Rand Paul could have been the nominee for the Republicans. Say what you will about him, filibusting for ten hours against the patriot act was awesome! Got him my support.

When he dropped out, I supported Bernie Sanders.

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#147729: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:53:36 AM

Anyone know what the early voting results show so far? Or will that all be sat on until 11/8?

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#147730: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:53:58 AM

Roosevelt also survived an attempted assassination. Frankly, I'd say the best presidents we've had are the ones who dragged the country forward, kicking and screaming, against its will. If no one hates you with all their heart, then you're probably not doing anything interesting enough to be remembered for.
Well then, looks like I'm voting for whoever people hate more. waii

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#147731: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:55:08 AM

Paul is a typical Tea Party nutcase, his position on civil liberties is two faced and its combined with the usual balanced budget BS.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#147732: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:55:24 AM

Rand Paul would have been genuinely dangerous as a nominee, because he can at least pretend to be sane. Filibustering, or even opposing the Patriot Act isn't the only ingredient for an acceptable candidate.

His states rights' viewpoint alone makes him complete shit, in my opinion. The state governments are all shit.

And at the end of the day, he's GOP, and the GOP is the enemy.

edited 1st Nov '16 9:56:50 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#147733: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:01:20 AM

And at the end of the day, he's GOP, and the GOP is the enemy.
Dont let factionalism get the better of you. Dislike the GOP if you must, but making them (or anyone for that matter) out as "the ultimate bad guy" sets an unhealthy precedent. Trust me, I know.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#147734: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:04:40 AM

Its easy to say that when their platform isn't specifically focused on taking away your human rights.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#147736: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:10:52 AM

[up][up]If that's the case then I wont blame you for wanting to stop those trying, but if you can, avoid getting too....."us vs them" in your perspective as you go about it.

edited 1st Nov '16 10:11:29 AM by nervmeister

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#147737: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:10:58 AM

[up][up][up]*recalls the RNC*

Am I going to be linked a 4 hour video of poorly structured rambling by some barely literate Britishman with strongman fantasies as to why it's a bad idea to reject the GOP platform circa 2016? The GOP consciously voted for it. What fallout they earn from it is something they have rightly earned. Especially when it runs roughshod over so many groups who have struggled and are still struggling to overcome the yokes set upon them by the GOP's base.

Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram surveillance tool was used to arrest Baltimore protestors

For years, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook have provided data to a company marketing social media surveillance tools to police, according to a newly published investigation by the ACLU of Northern California. Geofeedia used the company’s AP Is to create real-time maps of social media activity in protest areas, maps which were subsequently used to identify, and in some cases arrest, protestors shortly after their posts became public. All three services have terminated Geofeedia’s access to the relevant AP Is.

The ACLU’s report includes direct evidence the tool was used to monitor unrest after the death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, in the form of a testimonial provided by Geofeedia to an unnamed police department. As protests escalated, police and Geofeedia representatives monitored social media posts in real time, in some cases running photos through a facial recognition systems to locate protestors with outstanding warrants.

The testimonial describes one specific case at a local high school, where students planned to walk out of class to join the crowds. "We were able to turn around and alert local police, who intercepted the kids — some of whom had already hijacked a metro bus — and found their backpacks full of rocks, bottles, and fence posts," Baltimore police Sergeant Andrew Vaccaro says in the testimonial. "They planned to do a lot of damage."

Geofeedia demonstrated similar capabilities in a public demo compiled around the Ferguson protests. Notably, the resulting map makes no distinction between posts by protestors and credentialed press, drawing all relevant posts into the same graphic. All the data included in the map is drawn from publicly available metadata — specifically images, geolocation data, and screen names available on Instagram’s public feed. Still, it’s easy to see how such a tool could be used by police to identify and retain data on protestors at an otherwise impossible scale.

In another demo on You Tube, the tool is used to populate live posts from "a rally related to the conflict in Israel" near Geofeedia’s Chicago office.

Notably, that system seems to violate a number of clauses in the platforms’ various developer policies. Twitter’s Developer Agreement includes a specific rule against using the provided data to "investigate, track or surveil Twitter’s users." Similarly, Facebook’s policy says developers may not "sell, license, or purchase any data obtained from us or our services" or "put Facebook data in a search engine or directory" without the company’s express permission. Instagram’s policy is less explicit about forbidding tracking or data collection, but does give the service permission to restrict access to the API at its discretion.

Instagram and Facebook both terminated Geofeedia’s API access on September 19th, after being contacted by the ACLU. Twitter sent the company a cease and desist letter, and said this morning that Geofeedia no longer had commercial access to Twitter’s database.

Still, it’s not clear how vigorously any of the companies enforced those policies in Geofeedia’s case. The company had been operating for five years with little difficulty before the ACLU’s investigation. Instagram data was drawn directly from the main API, apparently raising few red flags at the company. Notably, Geofeedia did not have direct access to Twitter’s Firehose data, but performed database searches through an intermediary.

In the case of Facebook, Geofeedia’s posts were pulled from the Topic Feed API, a system that lets developers see a ranked feed of public posts on a given trending topic. Released in 2014, the API was originally developed as a tool for media organizations and marketers to find posts driving the conversation around popular topics. But when the Trending Topic in question was a protest or other public unrest, it was easy for police to use that same system to locate protestors.

According to Facebook, Geofeedia’s access to the API was terminated because the company was not using the data for media or brand purposes.

"[Geofeedia] only had access to data that people chose to make public," a Facebook representative said in a statement referring to both Facebook and Instagram. "Its access was subject to the limitations in our Platform Policy, which outlines what we expect from developers that receive data using the Facebook Platform."

"If a developer uses our AP Is in a way that has not been authorized," the representative continued, "we will take swift action to stop them and we will end our relationship altogether if necessary."

Together with Color of Change and the Center for Media Justice, the ACLU has called for Facebook and Twitter to change their API policies to prevent similar systems from being used in the future. "[These companies] should not provide user data access to developers who have law enforcement clients and allow their product to be used for surveillance," the groups said in joint letters to Facebook and Twitter.

Reached for comment, Geofeedia CEO Phil Harris provided the following statement, reproduced in full:

Geofeedia is a software platform that aims to provide important, real-time publicly available information to a broad range of private and public sector clients, including corporations, media and journalism groups, marketing and advertising firms, educational companies, cities, schools, sports teams, and the aviation sector. In each of these areas, Geofeedia is committed to the principles of personal privacy, transparency and both the letter and the spirit of the law when it comes to individual rights.

Our platform provides some clients, including law enforcement officials across the country, with a critical tool in helping to ensure public safety while protecting civil rights and liberties. Notably, our software has also been used in response and recovery efforts – from the Boston Marathon to the effects of Hurricane Matthew that we saw this past weekend – to assist millions of people affected by both manmade and natural events.

Geofeedia has in place clear policies and guidelines to prevent the inappropriate use of our software; these include protections related to free speech and ensuring that end-users do not seek to inappropriately identify individuals based on race, ethnicity, religious, sexual orientation or political beliefs, among other factors. That said, we understand, given the ever-changing nature of digital technology, that we must continue to work to build on these critical protections of civil rights. Geofeedia will continue to engage with key civil liberty stakeholders, including the ACLU, and the law enforcement community to make sure that we do everything in our power to support the security of the American people and the protection of personal freedoms.

Update 9:02pm ET: Updated with statement from Geofeedia.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#147738: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:15:46 AM

[up][up][up]

Well that's disconcerting...

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#147739: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:20:38 AM

[up] remember that A) 538's results have always been biased towards trump (simply because history suggests that this election should have been an easy win for the republican party, Hillary has been in the lead because Trump is that bad). b) their projects have been going in waves. in a few days, it could flip completely, and c) a bunch of people have already voted, and I have no clue if those people are still polled

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#147740: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:25:09 AM

God damn. We don't need another winning of the popular vote but losing of the electoral vote, which is what happened with another Democrat: Al Gore. Since it would have happened to a Democrat twice, it would be interpreted by many as "Democrat whining".

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#147741: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:26:01 AM

I'm about to head out to early voting. I intend to vote Democrat down the line, so the one part I'm personally unsure of is an Idaho state Constitution amendment called HJR 5. I'm unsure which way to go on it. Our Republican senator Jim Risch is for it, but I don't want to let my bias do the voting for me in something like this.

http://www.sos.idaho.gov/elect/inits/2016/amend.html

Info on the measure. By my understanding it makes part of the state Constitution a law that the legislature can review rules made by state agencies and reject them if they run counter to the law ("legislative intent")

The "against" side considers the amendment unnecessary because it's already in the law and even upheld by the Idaho Supreme Court. The "for" side seems to see it as a safeguard against a future court overturning that.

On the one hand, I'm all for more checks and balances. Potential gridlock aside it's pretty much what our government is founded on. On the other, it seems like the bill is busy worrying about a "might be" than a real issue, and that's setting off some mental red flags.

edited 1st Nov '16 10:26:27 AM by sgamer82

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#147742: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:37:17 AM

It's really not going to happen. Trump has to win all swing states (under the current polling, which includes places he shouldn't have to struggle in like Arizona and Georgia, but also real swing states like Iowa and Ohio) plus Pennsylvania if he wants to get an EC majority.

ballotpedia can help you out, sgamer.

edited 1st Nov '16 10:37:52 AM by Ogodei

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#147743: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:41:09 AM

Take also note that there is absolutely no detail on what "increasing odds" actually entails.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#147744: Nov 1st 2016 at 10:44:02 AM

So the FBI apparently released documents from an investigation into the Clinton Foundation that was closed in 2005.

Guess they're not even pretending to be non-partisan anymore.

Edit:

NVM, apparently someone FOIA'ed the info for some reason.

edited 1st Nov '16 10:48:18 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#147745: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:10:35 AM

@sgamer: That amendment seems to be part of the red state push-back against local jurisdictions passing equal rights legislation when the state government opposes it. I would vote "no" on the general principle that it conveys no obvious benefit and is put forth by people with suspect motives.

edited 1st Nov '16 11:10:48 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#147746: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:12:28 AM

538 has Trump winning Florida, Ohio, and Iowa.

Voters are fucking goldfish.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#147747: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:16:30 AM

[up] Did you even read jetyl's post above? 538 are biased towards the Republicans.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#147748: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:21:02 AM

https://ballotpedia.org/Idaho_Veto-Proof_State_Legislative_Oversight_of_Administrative_Rules_and_Regulations,_HJR_5_(2016)

Looked up the measure on Ballotpedia and definitely thinking no. The main thing that tipped the scales (emphasis mine)

House Joint Resolution 5 (HJR 5) would also make it so that legislative approval and rejection of administrative rules are not subject to a veto by the governor. Administrative rules—usually written and implemented by agencies or commissions in the state executive branch—are regulations meant to help enforce existing legislation rather than enact new laws.
As I said, I'm inclined for checks and balances and this resolution seems designed to remove a significant one. Combine that with the issue is it's more about "may be" than actual current issues and I'm thinking we're in a "it's not broke do don't fix it" type of situation.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#147749: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:25:31 AM

As long as Clinton can hold Nevada, North Carolina and the blue states, she should be fine. It'll be close but she still has an edge. And early voting is in her favor.

Trump is also setting his supporters up for a logistical disaster in a week, he has a pathetic ground game.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#147750: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:27:17 AM

Remind me, again, what problems Trump's ground game could cause?

Oh God! Natural light!

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