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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#147676: Oct 31st 2016 at 9:35:57 PM

Yeah it really is. Still, one could take that as NATO antagonizing the Russians for no real reason.

Or at the very least slant the story that way and justify military buildup and expansion to the general populace.

Oh really when?
Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#147677: Oct 31st 2016 at 9:49:14 PM

To what end, tho? He HAS to know they're going to go broke, eventually. Like, he didn't think of making his country not reliant on gas and oil, before he soought to be a thorn in the West's side?

I may not be a world leader, but I'll be dammed if that wasn't dumb as fuck on his part.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#147678: Oct 31st 2016 at 9:51:13 PM

Medvedev has been doing a fair bit to diversify the Russian economy while he handles foreign policy and military restructuring. I know the modernization programs are going rather terrifyingly well but I'm not sure how successful Medvedev is.

Oh really when?
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#147680: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:40:20 AM

[up] Just one more week, just one more week...

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147681: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:46:26 AM

Who leaked those emails?

Do not obey in advance.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#147684: Nov 1st 2016 at 3:23:44 AM

Wasn't this known like months ago?

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#147685: Nov 1st 2016 at 3:30:50 AM

Let's calm down with the tinfoil hats about russia, guys. (The article more or less says the connection is just as likely to be the result of spam mail.

Also, This guy gives more detail about why it's probably nothing.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147686: Nov 1st 2016 at 3:58:56 AM

Oh, I thought that Brazile fed Hillary questions during one of the debates against Trump. I honestly think that that would have been a bigger deal.

This feeds into the "the DNC was rigged against Sanders" narrative.

Do not obey in advance.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#147687: Nov 1st 2016 at 4:06:23 AM

The DNC and the RNC have never been neutral in any election, it's their job to lead the narrative to the convention and help from there. Feeding to questions to one candidate and not the other is underhanded but not unprecedented.

The RNC tried to go more hands off this election and they got Trump so it's not entirely unwarranted as well especially considering how dangerous the Bern ended up being vs the party platform. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same vs Obama actually and the RNC has probably done worse.

the absolute scariest thing in this election, the Supreme Court I mean holy freaken crap, this would be literally the worst.

edited 1st Nov '16 4:35:22 AM by Memers

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#147688: Nov 1st 2016 at 4:15:59 AM

Again I keep thinking of House of Cards, where they accused the Putin stand-in of basically trying to drag the U.S. down with him because his economy was in the toilet and he was facing imminent revolt... one can only hope.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#147689: Nov 1st 2016 at 5:21:39 AM

Meanwhile, in a basement somewhere in Siberia, Samantha talks to a couple of paid Russian trolls.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#147690: Nov 1st 2016 at 5:42:31 AM

Pipeline explodes just a month after it was fixed, again cutting off a major source of gasoline to the SE USA.

Seeing major runs on gas stations in rural areas AGAIN, looks like every station withing maybe 50 miles of me is out of gas and police are responding to people in rural areas getting violent in the lines.

No info on what caused the explosion other than the spot where it happened was undergoing maintenance. 1 confirmed dead and they're working to contain the fire. The current drought conditions in the south coupled with dry tinder from the fall certainly aren't helping things.

edited 1st Nov '16 5:49:22 AM by carbon-mantis

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#147691: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:04:14 AM

Hopefully regulators are giving that company a good hard look. One incident is happenstance, two is generally negligence.

Vampireandthen In love with an Uptown Girl from Northern Ireland Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
In love with an Uptown Girl
#147692: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:04:28 AM

Okay, now I really want the three greatest presidents to come back.

Washington, Lincoln and Teddy Rossevelt, why did you all have to die?

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#147693: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:06:05 AM

I would imagine all three to be rather overwhelmed in today's political climate.

We don't know what kind of policies they'd have regarding lgbt and minority protection.

We don't know how they'd handle aggressive Cold War remnant parties.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#147694: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:09:32 AM

It's not like all those people were universally popular in their time. Lincoln in particular was so unpopular that his unpopularity was the spark that started the Civil War, and he was eventually assassinated. Which, you know, shows how much people hated him for what he did. The best decisions aren't necessarily the most popular.

For all we know, Hillary Clinton will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents ever.

edited 1st Nov '16 6:10:51 AM by Clarste

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#147695: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:10:40 AM

Obama is already making some headway there. Apparently he currently polls better than Reagan ever did?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#147696: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:17:51 AM

Obama has a higher approval rating right now than Reagan did at the same time in 1988, yes.

Although the late 80s were swamped by the Savings and Loan crisis, one of our more forgotten economic quagmires, but people were still steamed about it at the time.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#147697: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:18:16 AM

Roosevelt also survived an attempted assassination. Frankly, I'd say the best presidents we've had are the ones who dragged the country forward, kicking and screaming, against its will. If no one hates you with all their heart, then you're probably not doing anything interesting enough to be remembered for.

Edit: I suspect that history will remember Obama mostly for pushing national healthcare, which will (hopefully) be refined by his successors.

edited 1st Nov '16 6:22:57 AM by Clarste

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#147698: Nov 1st 2016 at 6:21:58 AM

Oh PLENTY of people fit that bill.

PLENTY.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#147699: Nov 1st 2016 at 7:09:46 AM

[up][up] Ah yes, traits symbolic of our greatest President, Andrew Jackson, who dragged the Indians kicking and screaming out of the southeastern United States.

You should probably correct that to "Presidents that push views that I personally agree with against the wishes of powers that I personally disagree with".

I suspect we'll wind up seeing Obama in generally better lights, as we do Clinton, and Bush will likely be judged under a harsher glare for the past decade of war in the Middle East. Though none will be seen as the "best/worst" President. Obamacare will be one of his greatest pieces of legacy, though future refinement (or lack of it) will be key to whether it will be remembered as a good thing or a bad thing.

I have my issues with Clinton. She hasn't been proven to have done anything "legally wrong" yet in the sense of things that she she should go to jail for (despite popular belief), but if her administration is run like the DNC is being currently run we have some problems on our way. The best hope, personally speaking, for her administration is that the Senate and/or the House come out of this election more Democratic leaning, which will help towards making the lawmaking process slightly more tolerable. And a vote for her is a physical vote against Trump and a metaphorical vote against the alt-right resurgence, which is the real key goal here.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#147700: Nov 1st 2016 at 7:10:21 AM

It turns out that Donald Trump is still not paying the people he contracts to do work for him — in this case, he's trying to stiff pollster Tony Fabrizio, whom he hired in May, of approximately $767,000. This is a common theme for Trump's business operations, which are legendary for short-paying contractors and then tying them up in expensive legal battles which they cannot afford to pursue. But he'll help support small businesses, yo!

[up] Put another way, being hated can be a sign that you're doing a good job, but it can also be a sign that you're doing a bad job.

edited 1st Nov '16 7:11:50 AM by Fighteer

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