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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#147001: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:36:16 PM

Anyone wanna bet the Hillary administration will just stop using emails for anything? All communications would be via self-destroying notes.

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#147002: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:40:02 PM

Day 1 in office headline: "Hillary Clinton announces a compromise on email matters. Because her use of email is such a sensitive issue to them, all correspondence with Republicans will now be performed using carrier pigeon."

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#147003: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:47:52 PM

I guess all those republicans who use private emails services and servers should start to get worried.

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#147004: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:54:37 PM

[up][up] You ought to know where that will lead...

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#147005: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:57:13 PM

[up][up] Nah they aren't Hillary Clinton so they should be fine.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147007: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:04:07 PM

Fox News Is playing this as a major October Surprise. Is this valid?

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#147008: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:07:20 PM

No. There is literally nothing of substance anywhere in this. They're just desperate for a scandal because of everything surrounding Trump right now.

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#147009: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:11:53 PM

[up]So... we've really got nothing to worry about?

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147010: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:13:08 PM

I feel a little sad that some people make a big deal out of this because they hate Hillary and love Trump.

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#147011: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:13:12 PM

[up][up] Oh, I wouldn't say that. The GOP's primary angle of attack on Clinton has always been to make mountains out of molehills and this may be no exception. What's ultimately important about this isn't whether or not there is any validity to the claim. It's how hard the GOP will milk it.

Frankly, it says a lot about Clinton that in the final hour, when the GOP is most desperate to find whatever dirt they can stick on her, their ultimate play was just revisiting the email scandal for the umpteenth time.

edited 28th Oct '16 3:15:17 PM by TobiasDrake

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147012: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:17:00 PM

[up]Yeah.

I kind of feel like Pence is trying to rein Trump in.

edited 28th Oct '16 3:17:24 PM by BearyScary

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#147013: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:21:42 PM

[up]Hiding to nothing. Seriously: hens have easier teeth to find and pull. tongue

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147014: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:25:43 PM

I know that old people aren't very tech-savvy, but can politicians please stop using private email servers?

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LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#147015: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:35:22 PM

I'm getting contradictory reports as to what's going on

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#147016: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:42:53 PM

Speaking of which, what exactly is the main story? Because I'm still not exactly sure just what's going on here.
It's not entirely clear (which is almost certainly by design, as the more confused the story is the more Republicans can yell "HILLARY! FBI! EMAILS!!" and the harder it is for anyone to correct them with clear and unambiguous facts), but the gist of it seems to be that during an unrelated investigationnote  they turned up some emails that had passed through Clinton's private server. The FBI has decided to look at these emails and see what, if anything, they can add to the investigation they've already done on Clinton. I've seen suggestions that we're talking about as few as three (as in, after two and before four) emails, here. It's another nothing story that's being blown into a huge enormous thing by the Republican spin machine.

What's actually important about this is the fact that the FBI director, James Comery, thought it was acceptable to pull this sort of shit. What launched the whole story was a letter that he sent to Congress this afternoon, which reads (in its entirety):

In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton's personal email server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony.

In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.

Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant, and I cannot predict how long it will take to complete this additional work, I believe it is important to update your Committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony.

That's literally it. There's nothing there. "We found more emails. Will look into them and get back to you. Cannot say when more information will be available." This dropped on a Friday afternoon (when people are likely to hear about it, but much less likely to hear about any clarifications or additional information that comes out over the weekend), less than two weeks before election day, while early voting is currently going on in most states.

It's a fantastically blatant attempt to manufacture an October surprise, coming from a nominally nonpartisan position.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#147017: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:45:00 PM

The only concrete facts I can gather at the moment is that the FBI was looking at emails on Anthony Weiner's phone and released info that was vague enough that the media and the Republicans immediately jumped on it with their own conclusions.

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#147018: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:45:46 PM

I think this will crash Clinton's huge lead. The news sites are all saying "CLINTON EMAILS!!!!!1!!!!1!!!" and that's all people will see

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#147019: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:46:42 PM

I've heard something about a "Deplorable Lives Matter"?

I've heard that there are worse Trump tapes than the one with Billy Bush in it. Maybe it's too late to bother releasing any of those, if there are any.

edited 28th Oct '16 3:47:49 PM by BearyScary

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#147020: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:48:20 PM

So are we going back to constantly have to explain to people why the world isn't ending now?

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#147021: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:48:44 PM

I am so done with "X Lives Matter". Not the actual Black Lives Matter movement which is completely legitimate, but anyone appropriating the "slogan" as a shorthand and by proxy disrespecting the context which gave birth to it, which isn't applicable to most circumstances.

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#147022: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:48:49 PM

This may dent some of Clinton's lead, but I doubt it'll do much. This thing feels like such a non-scandal that it'll probably fizzle out quickly.

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#147023: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:48:57 PM

I think this will crash Clinton's huge lead. The news sites are all saying "CLINTON EMAILS!!!!!1!!!!1!!!" and that's all people will see
It depends on how quickly the media is able to dig to the bottom of this. They've actually done better than I expected so far — they've been pretty quick on the draw, and already stories are running to the effect of "Republicans overblowing FBI comments again" rather than "Clinton arrest imminent, Trump to be declared King of America".

Plus, there's honestly not all that many undecided voters left. Trump supporters will eat this up, but you still only get one vote per person no matter how hard you vote for them, and Clinton supporters will largely dismiss it — rightfully — as bullshit.

edited 28th Oct '16 3:49:29 PM by NativeJovian

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#147024: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:51:31 PM

My understanding is that while going though Weiner's emails the FBI found a few connected to Clinton (maybe sent from him to her, her to him or between him and his wife about her), they're going to look at said emails to see if there's anything in them.

That's it, for all we know Weiner once emailed Clinton asking if she knew when his wife would be home and she emailed back saying around 9.

Now I'm not ready to jump of the pitchfork wagon for the FBI director yet, it's possible that he's simply doing everything by the book and that that means keeping congress up to date.

edited 28th Oct '16 3:51:54 PM by Silasw

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#147025: Oct 28th 2016 at 4:03:32 PM

Also, I think it's mentioned already, but a group called the Democratic Coalition Against Trump is filling a complaint with the Department of Justice over this

The actual complaint from DCAT themselves:

http://www.keepamericagreat.us/comeydojcomplaint


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