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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#146752: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:11:28 AM

So my brother linked this on Facebook today - apparently some intrepid soul discovered that Donald Trump is basically BP Richfield, the iconic Bad Boss from Dinosaurs

Seriously, the resemblance is uncanny.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#146753: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:16:06 AM

Twitter: One day, Donald Trump is going to look a reporter dead in the eyes and say, "I NEVER ran for President".

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#146755: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:27:44 AM

How many of you can relate to or have had conversations like this?

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#146756: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:30:37 AM

I've come to seriously hate the false equivalency I see everywhere on the Internet now (and in real life) Saying "they're both equally bad!" is a good way to sound like you're a smart critical thinker without actually doing the research.
Well, I can safely say Hilary has the edge in competence....And the old saying is that well-intentioned stupidity can be far more damaging than someone who is disingenuous and selfish (aka. a politician) but can at least make the trains run on time.

edited 27th Oct '16 11:33:53 AM by nervmeister

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#146757: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:36:13 AM

[up]

To be fair, I can see it as valid criticism - most other elections, a candidate with as many scandals and potential conflicts of interest (read: "pay for play" allegations regarding the Clinton Foundation, which she blatantly sidestepped at the final debate) would have been sunk... normally. It's just that Trump is just that bad that she's a more viable pick due to Better the Devil You Know.

Also, I could easily see Trump using the "I was just running as a lark, and I still beat so many people" excuse a few years from now.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#146758: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:50:07 AM

As far as scandals goes, the Democrats are held to a ridiculously higher standard than the Republicans. The fact that Clinton is catching flak when most of her scandals are imaginary or exaggerated says so.

Mark Sanford getting reelected while Anthony Weiner getting thrown under the bus also proves so.

edited 27th Oct '16 11:50:50 AM by NoName999

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#146759: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:53:31 AM

[up] That's what happens when one of the oldest and most successful cable news networks is owned and run by people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes.

Of course, the biggest scandal facing HRC, the one for which all the others are more or less just things to hide behind?

She's a woman running for President — one who might actually win.

Even if that isn't the only reason, it is the core of the almost zealous blind hatred and fear many feel towards HRC.

edited 27th Oct '16 11:56:25 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#146760: Oct 27th 2016 at 11:57:41 AM

To be fair, I can see it as valid criticism - most other elections, a candidate with as many scandals and potential conflicts of interest (read: "pay for play" allegations regarding the Clinton Foundation, which she blatantly sidestepped at the final debate) would have been sunk... normally.

If most of those scandals had merit, that would be one thing, but they don't. The fact that a lot of other politicians would unfairly be sunk by nothings doesn't mean it would be any fairer of Clinton was sunk by nothings.

Edit: Anyway, hasn't the Clinton Foundation stuff been mostly debunked too? Like how she doesn't actually get any money from it personally and how she backed out of things because of the conflicts of interest that could arise? Because that just sounds like reflects well on her.

edited 27th Oct '16 11:59:56 AM by LSBK

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#146761: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:03:41 PM

[up][up]Yeah, women are also held to a higher standard than men as well.

So a Democratic woman who's emotionally guarded can somehow still lose to the blowhard GOP guy who has less emotional control than a drunken monkey.

Like how?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#146762: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:04:08 PM

I actually feel more comfortable voting for HRC after all of this. She is arguably the most vetted politician ever by this point. And given how little actual dirt was dug up on her, and how utterly mundane it was compared to the wild conspiracies her enemies invented, I'm actually okay with the idea of HRC being the next POTUS.

[up] Because at least 40% of the American electorate are idiots, apparently.

edited 27th Oct '16 12:05:17 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#146763: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:08:59 PM

So a Democratic woman who's emotionally guarded can somehow still lose to the blowhard GOP guy who has less emotional control than a drunken monkey. Like how?
Irrational fear of some kind of oppressive matriarchy (complete with an all-female police force armed with rolling pins in place of nightsticks)?

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#146764: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:16:02 PM

[up]Don't diss rolling pins. I've dropped one on my foot. It wasn't nice, and it wasn't even a high counter it dropped off.

Those things are evil.

TheWanted Since: Oct, 2013
#146765: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:31:07 PM

[up][up] Ah yes, the only reason someone could possibly be against clinton is because she's a woman, and not that they disagree on several issues.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#146766: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:32:31 PM

It's a pretty huge portion of the hate she gets.

Oh really when?
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146767: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:39:11 PM

Or are salty Bernie fans.

New Survey coming this weekend!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#146768: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:40:37 PM

Eh, haven't most of those calmed down by now?

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#146769: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:44:54 PM

[up]The Remnant is really just a bunch of hipster doofuses whose minds have collapsed towards repeating tired conspiracy theories ad nauseum.

I know this girl who is diehard pro-Bernie, and for the past week, most of her Facebook feed has been posted articles about how the US has a patent for an AIDS cure involving colloidal silver and that its complete lack of media exposure indicates a government conspiracy against curing AIDS. Yeah.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#146770: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:46:29 PM

Ah yes, the only reason someone could possibly be against clinton is because she's a woman, and not that they disagree on several issues.
I'm talking about those who flat-out rage against her as if she killed their dogs on live TV.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#146771: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:47:40 PM

MOST patents are for things that never pan out, because the person who applied for the patent never invented the thing, or was just crazy. There's a patent to use your tv's emag signals to control your brain. Doesn't mean it's going to do anyone any fucking good. That's not the way brains work OR electromagnetic signals.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#146772: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:47:47 PM

My cousin is one of the Bernie Bros (Bernie Sisters?) who jumped over to Jill Stein because "corporate shill!!!1!", while completely ignoring all evidence of Stein being one of the worst politicians out there.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146773: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:53:26 PM

Stein is, quite literally, EVERYTHING Bernouts project on to HRC.

The cognitive dissonance would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

New Survey coming this weekend!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#146774: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:57:20 PM

Rational Wiki brings up a lot of supposed dirt on her, but it reads more like ideological disputes and Ron the Death Eater than anything else. As far as politicians go she doesn't have that much in terms of unambiguous corruption and hypocrisy other than subjective feelings.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#146775: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:58:41 PM

@The Wanted

Luckily nobody said that all the critiques of her are misogynistic. Just some of them. Want to try again?

[up]Rational Wiki, while fun, is populated by many of the worst dregs of the Internet left. Their article on Obama, for instance, frequently seems to have confused him for George W.

edited 27th Oct '16 12:59:57 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar


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