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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#146701: Oct 26th 2016 at 9:54:54 PM

If you are interested in learning more about the Amish community and the AAB, you can contact the Pennsylvania Amish Heritage Museum at (785) 273-0325.

This is the sort of tagline that ends a press release. And being a .de url (Germany, right?) seems fishy.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#146702: Oct 26th 2016 at 9:55:53 PM

[up][up] Only if I actually look at who writes the articles. Something which, speaking seriously, I probably should get in the habit of doing...

Fortunately that should answer the question of parody vs serious.

edited 26th Oct '16 9:58:10 PM by sgamer82

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#146703: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:01:10 PM

Given how the site is using too-realistic trademarks and isn't obviously a fake until you take a second look I kinda think what they're doing is a somewhat dangerous hoax given the current environment.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#146704: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:03:56 PM

It's a pretty lazy hoax/parody either way. Aside from, like, four articles, every story goes to the same article about a supermodel for... Wordpress?

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#146705: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:05:07 PM

But Google is mistaking it for the real CNN.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#146706: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:05:25 PM

CNN (the actual station) interviewed a bunch of Amish a while back. While they said they didn't support Clinton because she's a woman, Amish have a religious prohibition on voting in what they see as a matter of outsiders.

And that entire site is clearly satire.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#146707: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:08:03 PM

Satire would be trying to actually be funny.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#146708: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:09:29 PM

Yeah. On the one hand I saw this and thought "That can not be right" but seeing it on CNN and (originally) an ABC labeled site made me think "wait..." and made me think maybe some confirmation is in order.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#146709: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:10:17 PM

While they said they didn't support Clinton because she's a woman

They're more honest about that than most other people who are basically not voting for her for the same reason.

chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146711: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:13:38 PM

This is real ad.

This is a REAL AD.

I...

I can't with this campaign

New Survey coming this weekend!
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#146712: Oct 26th 2016 at 10:43:07 PM

Democratic Party sues GOP alleging voter intimidation plot.

Rachel Maddow has more:

edited 26th Oct '16 10:54:53 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#146713: Oct 26th 2016 at 11:29:40 PM

Has anyone seen this?

I'm dying over here! [lol]

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#146714: Oct 26th 2016 at 11:45:08 PM

[up][up] Isn't the GOP having trouble with funding these days, too? They really don't need a lawsuit on top of everything else. Not that they don't deserve it, of course.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#146715: Oct 26th 2016 at 11:58:38 PM

[up]My heart. It brims. With tears. Such tears.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#146716: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:15:20 AM

IKR? I'm beside myself with sorrow. Whatever will they do to recover?

Do not obey in advance.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#146717: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:19:43 AM

Is it just me, or has Trump's hair gotten even more yellow?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#146718: Oct 27th 2016 at 12:21:27 AM

[up] Maybe he's too distracted these days to measure out the right amount of bleach to pour in his "hair".

Disgusted, but not surprised
yoneld Thus speaks yoneld: from Haifa, Israel Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Thus speaks yoneld:
#146719: Oct 27th 2016 at 1:19:42 AM

The dead ferret on his head continues to rot...

Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#146720: Oct 27th 2016 at 2:14:53 AM

Regarding racism in the US, I think the issue is that other countries hide it better and don't raise as much of a fuss about it. We seem to have more racism because we as a culture are much more willing to raise the issue.

In the US, if a cop beats a black man, it's going up on YouTube, and the majority of the population are not on with that shit. We have our rightards, but the rest of us notice racism and call it out when we see it. And because of that, we're making solid progress - as America has shown that it's no longer willing to tolerate police brutality against minorities, we're getting prosecutions and we're getting body cams.

The flip side of this, of course, is that our rightards also see "bullshit" everywhere (like women who dare think that they have a right to not have sex with a "real man" who wants them, or guys who look kinda like Muslims), and they grab the biggest megaphones they can find to call it out.

edited 27th Oct '16 2:16:26 AM by Ramidel

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#146721: Oct 27th 2016 at 5:10:39 AM

[up] Basically, the idea of freedom of speech has made the US into a culture of people willing to speak out against what they perceive to be injustices. This means that the majority of people will speak out against racism when they see it, but also means a small minority of racists can also speak out against what they erroneously think is injustice.

The United States' prejudice is much more obvious, but that also means it is more willing to work said prejudice out of its system. After all, Trump isn't going to win, it doesn't look good for Republicans in Congress, and so long as the Democrats get the Senate, the Supreme Court will shift itself to the left.

Wizard Needs Food Badly
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#146722: Oct 27th 2016 at 5:36:05 AM

It's almost like the system works!

On another note, I wonder if America's Congressional and Presidential system has a few advantages over the Westminster model. Looking at Spain's current governmental crisis, and comparing it to America's deadlock, I can't help but wonder if we got the better end of the deal - because since America doesn't hold a new election just because the government can't agree, we get deadlock. However, that forces Congresscritters from both sides and multiple political inclinations to work together instead of throwing up their hands and calling a new election. We ultimately even get budgets, because a truculent Congress knows what'll happen to their party if the government shuts down - so even the Tea Party learned to compromise after Obama fitted that lesson into a suppository.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#146723: Oct 27th 2016 at 5:39:29 AM

If Clinton wins, she will have massive influence on the future direction that the country takes on many issues. The Supreme Court is actually very powerful, and it's surprising how often they end up making the final decision on national issues, especially social justice-related things.

There's a vacant sear at the moment, and Clinton has been careful with how she's worded her comments about it. She wants the Senate to confirm Obama's choice, but if they don't do it she's left herself the option of picking someone else. (That would be a bit of a blow on Obama's legacy, but there you go.)

Two current justices are over 80. One will be over 80 by the end if the next President's first term. That means more seats - 2-4, including Scalia's - will probably be filled by the next President, possibly in their first term (and almost certainly in the second, at the latest). If Clinton gets to appoint the swing vote in the Supreme Court and install several other liberal justices to establish a more firm majority, the decision of the Supreme Court are likely to favour social justice causes in the next decade or two - or possibly even longer than that.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#146724: Oct 27th 2016 at 5:53:04 AM

The issue re justices is that at the moment there's still little prospect that Democrats will get to 60 seats this election (i.e., enough to defeat a filibuster). Unless some Republican senators can be convinced to go along, they could still (in theory) continue to block nominations (or rather, refuse to continue the process) indefinitely. I cannot remember where I saw this prospect, but the result could be a Supreme Court that goes to two empty seats, then three, even four (at which point the Court would effectively stop functioning because a quorum requires six total justices).

The blocking senators will get flak - it will depend on the overall mood of those paying attention.

edited 27th Oct '16 5:54:44 AM by megarockman

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#146725: Oct 27th 2016 at 6:03:32 AM

The filibuster isn't in the Constitution, it's a Senate Rule, and Senate Rules can be passed by a simple majority at the beginning of a new Senate. So all Chuck Schumer has to do is expand Harry Reid's "nuclear option," which was previously applied to presidential appointments that weren't SCOTUS or Cabinet members, to include SCOTUS as well.

Or just nuke the filibuster entirely, or at least alter the rules so that filibusters can't be abused as they have been in recent Senate sessions.

In the past it was presumed that you had to actually filibuster, that you had to keep talking on an issue until enough Senators gave up and went home that the bill would be defeated in the short term, and that Senate business would have to stop dead while the filibuster was ongoing. Now you can filibuster one bill at a time, and you only have to declare your intent to filibuster, not actually go through with it.

It's an idea that's well outlived it's usefulness, and might as well get scrapped entirely.


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