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#146476: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:10:47 PM

If the GOP collapse completely and utterly then it's likely that the dems would split too even unofficially, there is always opposition to something in politics.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#146477: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:12:07 PM

The Telegraph did a bit of investigative journalism, old school. Here's the report.

They had their journalist pretend that they're representing a wealthy Chinese person who'd like the give a PAC supporting Trump $2 million in exchange for some influence with the future Trump government.

The PAC's leaders were very willing to agree to this arrangement, and they even offered to help channel the money so that there wouldn't be a direct illegal donation to the PAC. (Foreign donations are apparently illegal.) The Trump PAC people offered to accept the money to their own accounts and then donate it to the PAC in their own name (or their companies' names) to hide the Chinese donor. They promised the donor could have the PAC people "whisper into Trump's ear" at any point and that the donation would be "remembered" by the Trump government.

I suppose I must point out that PACs supporting Trump might not be taking instructions from the Trump campaign, so while this clearly proves that this particular PAC is doing illegal things and promising access to Trump, it's not necessarily the case that Trump knows about this or condones it.

The reporters also tried to make a similar offer to a pro-Clinton PAC but didn't get a response.

I wonder if this will even register as a scandal, at this point.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#146478: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:14:34 PM

Just how important to the GOP is the RNC? A lot of the people around me consider Priebus considered as kind of a toothless figurehead.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#146479: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:19:24 PM

[up][up]Yeah, that was posted earlier today. They're a British paper though so I'm not sure just how well the US media will get wind of it.

Re: the GOP: Another important difference is that they still had at least the outward appearance of a united front in backing Romney, even as the Tea Party fractures were showing. This year it's open animosity and the fractures are splitting.

[up]They're the organizational and administrative body as well as where a lot of the campaign planning traditionally happens, including where to spend campaign money (beyond what a candidate for office raises themselves). They publish the party platform which is supposed to represent the broad consensus of party goals. They have no role that is legally binding but they wield and shepherd influence as well as grunt work. Same with the DNC.

edited 25th Oct '16 5:26:29 PM by Elle

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#146480: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:30:45 PM

I voted today. I'm strangely nervous about it, for some reason.

How am I adulting? XD

edited 25th Oct '16 5:39:43 PM by BearyScary

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#146481: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:44:23 PM

I dunno if anyone's mentioned it, but #Trump A Horror Movie is trending right now. Essentially a bunch of horror movie parodies with Trump inserted.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#146482: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:55:35 PM

I suppose I must point out that PA Cs supporting Trump might not be taking instructions from the Trump campaign, so while this clearly proves that this particular PAC is doing illegal things and promising access to Trump, it's not necessarily the case that Trump knows about this or condones it.

There's not knowing or condoning and then there's "not knowing or condoning". While I do believe Trump doesn't know mostly because he doesn't care enough to keep tabs on what his campaign or PACs are doing , it's also possible he's engaging in a bit of "See no evil, hear no evil" to keep his hands officially clean.

To use an actual president as an example; near the end of the Civil War Abraham Lincoln privately implied to his senior military leaders that he wanted them to let the Confederate leadership flee the country. He never actually said those words and officially the rebels were to be captured and brought to trial, but Lincoln managed to get his intentions felt without actually implicating himself and thus avoid an uproar in the Union over this policy.

edited 25th Oct '16 5:55:47 PM by Parable

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#146483: Oct 25th 2016 at 6:27:00 PM

So I'm currently at the Nixon library as an audience member for a debate between a panel of five college students from different schools in Southern California. Anything I should do, ask, or say? This just might be streamed onto KPCC. evil grin

edited 25th Oct '16 6:28:17 PM by FluffyMcChicken

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Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#146484: Oct 25th 2016 at 6:28:19 PM

What is it about?

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146485: Oct 25th 2016 at 6:28:59 PM

Offering to send Obama somewhere he can't come back from, especially Kenya, has been a popular refrain of the birther movement that promotes the conspiracy theory that Obama was born outside the United States.

"You want to go to Canada? I’ll pay for you to go to Canada," Hannity continued. "You want to go to Kenya? I’ll pay for you to go to Kenya. Jakarta, where you went to school back in the day, you can go back there. Anywhere you want to go. I’m gonna—I’ll put the finest food, caviar, champagne, you name it. I have one stipulation: you can’t come back. That’s fair."

Totally not racist!!!

/s

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#146486: Oct 25th 2016 at 6:34:42 PM

[up][up] "which presidential candidates would best serve the interests of college students?"

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#146487: Oct 25th 2016 at 6:47:05 PM

Hmm...

How about "Which candidate can be best trusted to protect the rights of LGBT+ college students?"

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#146488: Oct 25th 2016 at 8:05:33 PM

I dunno if anyone's mentioned it, but #Trump A Horror Movie is trending right now. Essentially a bunch of horror movie parodies with Trump inserted.

Trump II

Also, anyone has the link with a Pepe the frog dressed as the reaper representing the alt right showing the Republican mascot the gave signaling the death of the Go P?

That piece of work is more fitting for this election than any political charge I've seen yet.

edited 25th Oct '16 8:38:13 PM by AngelusNox

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#146489: Oct 25th 2016 at 8:18:09 PM

Obama's been heavily criticized for signing more Executive Orders than any other President.
Wait, what? In his first four years, Obama only signed 147. Compare that to Clinton, who signed 364, Truman's 907, or FDR's 3,522. I don't think Obama's passed that number in his entire time in office.
did Clinton manage to hit him with her cancer satellite?
If Clinton had a cancer satellite, she could have wiped out Scalia the day after Obama took office. Followed shortly by Clarence Thomas, and then we'd already have a liberal advantage on SCOTUS.
somehow I would think that Reagan would have had more as affirmative for him too, at least in his second go around.
I'm not surprised for the 1980 election; at the time, Carter was quite unpopular, so people voted against him rather than for Reagan.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#146490: Oct 25th 2016 at 8:23:05 PM

[up]For the first one, it's probably like how certain people love to claim Obama has taken more vacation days than any other president even though it's easily verifiable it's not the case. It makes him look bad so it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#146492: Oct 25th 2016 at 8:33:30 PM

Newt is such a fucking creep.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#146493: Oct 25th 2016 at 8:56:54 PM

He's kinda smug, too.

I like how Megyn Kelly at least mentions sexism.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146494: Oct 25th 2016 at 8:59:13 PM

Don't give her too much credit.

She's still basically a closet white supremacist.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#146495: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:01:22 PM

If that were true she'd have a lot more fascination with BLM, in a bad way, like Hannity and O'Reilly do. She doesn't. Has she made unfortunate comments before. Yes. But elsewise, she hasn't been particularly racist.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#146496: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:10:57 PM

Here's the relevant interview:

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146497: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:13:20 PM

This woman nearly had an emotional breakdown over Santa and Jesus being white, and gave an interview with DL Hughley and was one step from defending police brutality.

She's just as racist as Hannity, O'Reily and the lot of those Fox Anchors

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golgothasArisen Since: Jan, 2015
#146498: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:17:01 PM

To be fair, it's been speculated that the Santa being white incident was fabricated, maybe for good ratings.

She's fine, definitely the one good thing to come from that shitty excuse for a news channel.

edited 25th Oct '16 9:17:36 PM by golgothasArisen

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#146499: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:20:05 PM

As a latino:

fuck Rubio for endorsing that worm Trump. He's implicitly saying he cares more about the party line or whatever than actually standing up for latinos and their issues in America.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#146500: Oct 25th 2016 at 9:20:30 PM

Chambers County, Texas had to print out emergency paper ballots Monday morning for early voting after a glitch was found in the electronic voting machines.

Some people are saying that they've seen their votes for Trump move to Hillary, which considering how they explained what the glitch does, makes a bit of sense, but some people are going into conspiracy theory areas about it.

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