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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#146301: Oct 24th 2016 at 4:13:29 PM

"Syria (bad show, Obama, bad show). "

to be fair, Syria was different because Russia decide to move quickly and back Assad, while with Lybia was more "let not try to much,otherwise it will end like Iraq" also, it wasnt England and France the one pushing for military action against Gadafi?

(Also, here in south america there is the idea that Gadaffi should just stay in power since it bring stability and people like him....yeah, is sad....)

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#146302: Oct 24th 2016 at 4:33:13 PM

@jasaiga What was the video by secular talk? I follow a few people on twitter who rt him. Apparently he hate criticism of him. He also weird ideas about global politics.

edited 24th Oct '16 4:33:52 PM by chartoc

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#146303: Oct 24th 2016 at 4:39:49 PM

The guy from Secular Talk is just another Internet left whacko. He's TYT with less sanity.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146304: Oct 24th 2016 at 4:59:35 PM

Secular Talk? Dude's hate boner for Hillary rivals even the GOP.

Fucker made fun of her for her work on the Children's Defense Fund. From then on he was forever on my shitlist

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#146305: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:00:14 PM

[up] ...How could you make fun of her work on that?

Oh God! Natural light!
Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#146306: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:11:17 PM

This is the video I was talking about. Literally arguing that Hillary isn't for Women's rights! Come the fuck on!

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#146307: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:13:54 PM

[up][up] You tell me. He's a total tool. Worst part is he thinks he knows what he's talking about. When any rookie Policy wonk would run circles around him.

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#146308: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:15:35 PM

Heh, I must say that after watching a piece on Buchanan County in Virginia, it might be the first time I saw people who are voting for Trump for a reason I find decent - ie feeling abandoned due to being coal miners under an administration that promotes cleaner energies (and fracking). It's a valid criticism that administrations tend to "forget" about the people with obsolete jobs, and they seldom think of proper transitioning towards new activities.

Also I assume that it's where Appeljack comes from. Those accents, damn.

edited 24th Oct '16 5:16:34 PM by Julep

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#146309: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:15:56 PM

Women's rights is probably the one thing you can't question Hillary Clinton's sincerity on.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#146310: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:25:19 PM

[up] Cute. Wrong, but cute.

[up][up] Coal mining is a dead profession. There, I said it. Call them neglected, but I've heard stories about the attitude towards work of the Appalachian folks.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#146311: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:28:04 PM

We also don't make too many buggies anymore. You know why? Because we have cars, planes, and trains now. Industries should die if they're no longer needed.

edited 24th Oct '16 5:28:17 PM by Kostya

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#146312: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:28:33 PM

I gotta agree with Fighteer on the coal mining. They're romanticizing an era that never really existed and was terrible for literally everyone involved. I live near the Appalachians, I've got family there. For the record.

Oh really when?
chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#146313: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:29:41 PM

@Tactical Fox 88, got a link to that? I just want to see for myself. Also in more bad news for Trump http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/

To quote someone from Twitter : Make no mistake - this is a Super PAC head telling a (fake) Chinese donor that he's directly buying influence from a Trump administration.

Wow

edited 24th Oct '16 6:13:00 PM by chartoc

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#146314: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:30:30 PM

Coal mining is not only dead, it is stupidly automated now.

You need more engineers and technicians working to keep the digging and drilling equipment functional than you need people to work on the mines. It was labor heavy up until the early 90's but now it is almost pure machine work.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#146315: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:37:43 PM

I also have a hard time seeing Trump actually giving a shit about the average coal worker anyway - he probably hasn't stepped foot anywhere near a mine or spent more than 5 minutes talking to anyone who works there, unless it was to complain about something.

More importantly, he doesn't respect anything or anyone but himself. It's a bit sad how desperate or wilfully ignorant people are that they don't see that.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#146316: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:51:28 PM

For the record, I don't romanticize coal working in Virginia more than I do it in France, where you have a pretty impressive correlation between (former) coal regions, unemployment rate and Front National vote overall.

The people interviewed in the segment didn't really seem that enthusiased by Trump. It's just that most of them thought he was more likely to help them get a job back.

As for saying that coal mining is dead, sure it's true, but how smart is it to blame it on the coal miners themselves? They aren't the ones responsible for the evolution of technology and the rise of new energies. They just point out that Obama favoring cleaner energies (and fracking) ruined their home towns, and that Clinton will do the same, while there is a chance Trump might help them.

Everyone would take "slight chance" over "no chance". Again, the issue here is just that it is right to point out that the shift towards new energies was done without caring one bit about the future of coal miners. We got the same thing in France when we transitioned from coal to nuclear, but that was a few decades ago - and to this day you can still see the social consequences in North and Lorraine.

And I'm not advocating for a Trump vote either. It was just nice to see some people who would reasonably vote Trump, instead of the hate and bigotry that seemed to be the norm so far.

edited 24th Oct '16 5:53:12 PM by Julep

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#146317: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:52:28 PM

A lot of folk don't get how big a deal automation is. I live in a city that was built around mining. At the heights of the good ol' days there was 50,000 miners keeping the ore chugging 24/7. Now we produce roughly the same with only 3,000 employees total. That counts IT and engineers and truck drivers and...you get the idea. Who needs 500 guys with pickaxes when you can get one guy with a remote operated super drill?

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#146319: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:53:50 PM

[up] US Georgia or Europe/Asia Georgia?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#146320: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:55:48 PM

Well, I mentioned it in the US Politics thread, so...

Oh God! Natural light!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#146321: Oct 24th 2016 at 5:56:03 PM

This is the US politics thread, Bat.

Edit:[nja]

edited 24th Oct '16 5:56:31 PM by LinkToTheFuture

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#146322: Oct 24th 2016 at 6:01:57 PM

It was kind of surreal for me to learn that people still consider coal to be a Big Thing in the US.

edited 24th Oct '16 6:02:24 PM by Gilphon

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#146323: Oct 24th 2016 at 6:06:01 PM

I'm still shocked that people are trying to pass 'clean coal' as 'clean' when it just means they pump the CO 2 underground for it to leak out elsewhere.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#146325: Oct 24th 2016 at 6:16:33 PM

[up][up]Never mind this process is so expensive it is cheaper to close the coal power plants than it is to adapt them to be clean and it isn't worth the cost to scrap a current coal PP and build a clean one instead.

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