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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#145551: Oct 20th 2016 at 2:39:51 PM

I'm tired of the double standards that Trumpets use to judge Hillary. Of course she's not perfect, but damn.

The Trumpets are in for such a rude awakening. I kind of wish that Trump would finally snap and have the kind of freak out that will shatter their perception of him, which I think is a projection of their own egos. They want to get away with whatever they want, like Trump does.

Do not obey in advance.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#145552: Oct 20th 2016 at 2:45:14 PM

Since I'm not at all knowledgeable on the subject, what do you think of her foreign policy, did any remarks from last night rub you the wrong way?

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#145553: Oct 20th 2016 at 2:47:53 PM

Not really, considering that she has a measured response regarding foreign policy and Trump's is "I'm gonna bomb them if they come up and make rude gestures at us."

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#145554: Oct 20th 2016 at 2:55:30 PM

I actually like Clinton's foreign policy more than Obama's in some areas, she's open about wanting to ally with the Kurds and actually has the guts to stick to things like Obama's failed Red Line, thing is she's smart enough to work out a solution to complicated situations like Syria. She understands how far the bear can be pushed while also understanding how to talk to it.

A return to the days of genocide stopping and nation building that doesn't explode would be nice. Look at all the good the US did in Former Yugoslavia, that's be pretty nice to have happen elsewhere, it'd do good for US opinion around the world to, as you'd actually be acting like the leader of the free world instead of doing what Obama has been doing.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#145555: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:13:18 PM

Hey guys. I've been lurking on this thread for weeks now, because it's probably the sanest place to follow the American elections. It's been very interesting.

Have you seen this? Stephen Colbert and Hugh Laurie have done an hilarious bit about dead voters voting for Hilary.

Edit: My bad, corrected the link.

edited 20th Oct '16 4:43:17 PM by StFan

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drunk bunny
#145556: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:27:00 PM

[up][up]While I don't disagree with you, let's not ignore the fact that the US acting as agents of the free world has also lead to some pretty serious harm and forceful electing of dictators in order to (hypocritically) mandate democracy.

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Lost in Space
#145557: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:35:31 PM

To say that the U.S. is saintly and can do no wrong is just as faulty as saying we're the Devil who rapes and pillages. No country is perfect; no country is completely evil; they are all a mix, and opinions vary. So let's cut it out with the hyperbole.

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Cid El Cid Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
El Cid
#145558: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:41:42 PM

I'd argue the US has done more good deeds than bad, though. So, overall it's a more positive presence in the world that most other great superpowers did/have done.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#145559: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:44:01 PM

And most important, we're in a position to do more good so long as we elect a decent enough leader.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#145560: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:57:33 PM

@St Fan: Uh. I'm assuming you didn't intend to link us to a Keith Olbermann video.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#145561: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:03:58 PM

So I hear Hillary is actually seriously campaigning in Texas. God if she wins Texas we could be looking at a historic landslide.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#145562: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:07:59 PM

Impromptu survey with actual residents of Little Haiti in Florida say Trump is full of shit.

Granted 20 random people is an extremely small sample size but it's still telling that not one of them had a nice thing to say about Trump.

Also apropos of nothing in particular I can't reiterate how pleased I was with Wallace's moderating for the last debate. Especially his impromptu request for closing statements.

edited 20th Oct '16 4:10:54 PM by AlleyOop

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#145564: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:10:12 PM

It's theoretically possible that Trump had a confirmation bias issue. Only Haitians that hated Hillary were willing to associate with him so he thinks all of them hate her. Alternatively he's just a lying piece of shit.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#145565: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:16:42 PM

I mean, my sister and I were just kind of going 'Does he not know that C-sections are a thing?' when he was going on about what he apparently thought was abortion.
No, he was describing an actual thing. "Partial-birth abortions" (which is not a medical term) generally refers to late-term abortions where the fetus is removed through the birth canal, not through the uterine wall (as with a c-section). This is generally done because the fetus is either already dead (ie, a miscarriage) or unviable due to congenital problems. Fetuses in such cases are largely intact, and thus an abortion may be done that way for a variety of reasons — to do an autopsy on the fetus, for example, or to allow the parents to have the child's remains, which they may wish to bury or cremate.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#145566: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:20:45 PM

It's not the sort of thing a woman just wakes up and decides to do one day though. Trump and the GOP seem to have this weird belief that women go through eight or nine months of pregnancy and then just decide they don't want to be mothers anymore.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#145567: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:34:06 PM

[up][up]I'm aware. But that situation is not the picture he was painting. He was painting a picture of a perfectly healthy baby being removed on the final day. Which is a C-section, not abortion. Unless you assume the baby was for some reason killed after being removed. In which case it's still not abortion, it's a C-section followed by child murder.

edited 20th Oct '16 4:34:17 PM by Gilphon

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#145568: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:35:32 PM

Eric Trump being wrong about something. In all fairness, while his comment was horrible as usual, the misuse is quite common.

The highlight is still that "alpha" was originally used to describe hens, not wolves.

FalseDichotomy from Your mind :o Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#145569: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:36:27 PM

@Le Monde article: Am I missing something here? Because sending a criminal back to their country of origin sounds pretty fair to me. What I'm about to say is going to sound really cold but those criminals aren't our problem. We're not the country that produced them so why should we be stuck with them?

I get that they're causing a lot destruction back home but that's the thing - if we didn't send them back they'd be causing trouble here.

edited 20th Oct '16 4:36:47 PM by FalseDichotomy

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#145570: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:41:16 PM
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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#145571: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:45:02 PM

And in some cases, the people in the country the crime was comitted know that the person wouldn't be properly prosecuted in their home country. They'd rather the person actually face a penalty than just get shipped home and get off on a technicality.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#145572: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:49:30 PM

Quick survey guys.

If you had to pick one, who would you rather lose their Senate Seat: Marco Rubio or John Mc Cain?

New Survey coming this weekend!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#145575: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:53:54 PM

Rubio seems like he has less integrity so I'm going with him as well.


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