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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#145426: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:37:43 PM

The war machine springing to life. opening one eager eye, and focusing in on the sky is not something that any sane person should want. note  It's stunning how many people don't get an itchy trigger finger is a bad thing when the "gun" is really a nuke missile.

Those who forget the past...

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#145427: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:38:41 PM

@Captain, not quite. As far as we know, the only time the nuclear codes (on either side) were brought out was after the Cold War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident). During other periods of tension, launch procedures didn't get that far/didn't go beyond elevated alerts.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
rfindlay from Boston Since: Dec, 2014
#145428: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:38:55 PM

[up]x8 It doesn't look at least like it's actually her registering that domain though, but credit where its due, that's not bad.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:39:11 PM by rfindlay

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#145429: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:44:55 PM

A CNN poll says Clinton won, 52% to 38%.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#145430: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:46:13 PM

@Clarste: I didn't know that.

The President doesn't actually have that much direct power. They can't make laws (that's Congress), can't declare laws illegal (that's the Supreme Court) and are generally not given the tools to turn themselves into a dictator. For, well, good reason. This is one of the main reasons Trump is so utterly unconvincing to anyone who understands these things: even if you agreed with his goals, he promises a lot of things that aren't within the power of the President. You might even say he doesn't understand what the job actually entails.

That's not to say the President is powerless—they're in charge of the "get shit done" branch of government—but a lot of their time will necessarily be spent convincing other people to do things.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#145432: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:56:43 PM

I sort of miss when Chretien was Premier of Canada.

When asked about the U.S campaign, Chretien referenced Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s recent illness, saying “there are pills to help you against pneumonia.” But, he added in a thinly-veiled jab at Trump, “apparently there’s no pill against something like stupidity.”

edited 19th Oct '16 8:57:22 PM by Ghilz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#145433: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:57:16 PM

[up]x3 "This is one of the main reasons Trump is so utterly unconvincing to anyone who understands these things"

One thing this election cycle has made painfully clear is that many people in America don't understand these things.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:57:30 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#145435: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:11:49 PM

The latino community's response to Trump has been consistently funny.

The Donald Trump piñatas that were posted some months ago were great as well.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#145436: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:13:10 PM

[up][up]That's amazing. Wish I was in Vegas. tongue

But yeah, Trump threatening not to concede if and when he loses. Yeah, I shouldn't be surprised at his bullshit at this point, but that is something else.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#145437: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:13:40 PM

About the abortion thing: my mom pointed out that what Trump was describing wasn't actually an abortion. It was a really exaggerated c-section. Because no one gets an abortion that close to the due date unless the fetus is already dead and killing the mother, but c-sections really aren't that rare around that time-frame, and in a really technical sense, a c-section is a type of abortion. It does terminate the pregnancy, but the baby is viable at that time, so it lives just fine.

edited 19th Oct '16 9:15:00 PM by Zendervai

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#145438: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:16:13 PM

Clinton actually pointed that out, as well. She said Trump's scenario was extremely unlikely, and very far from representative of even a so-called "late-term" abortion. Those are done almost exclusively (and I almost didn't include "almost" there - even though I'm repeating it now) for medical reasons, and those reasons tend to be noticed and acted on much sooner.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#145439: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:18:57 PM

@Caspase

And yet not a single one of those issues was caused by shooting down Russian planes. Making your point irrelevant. No one starts a nuclear war over a jet. They start it when their computer system tells them the other side has launched already. Which can happen even when we have good relations with everyone.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#145440: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:21:22 PM

From Extra Credits.

I rarely bring up politics here, but the debate reminded me too hauntingly of what we've seen again and again in history at the end of great republics. I never thought that in my lifetime I'd see a major party candidate deny the validity of our democracy. As I mentioned in the lies episode on the Gracchi brothers, democracy only works because we have faith in it. As soon as you open that box what you're doing is encouraging people to act outside of the democratic process, to act through violence or mob rule because you're saying that there is no democratic recourse left to them.

I believe in the American experiment. There is a lot wrong with this country, but there's a lot right too, and what's right has been preserved through the will of the people and the peaceful transfer of power. You can argue that the rules around our elections are broken, that things like gerrymandering imperils our democratic process, and I will absolutely agree, but, while politicians work to rewrite the rules to their benefit, the truth is that whatever rules are in place are honestly and earnestly followed. The vote itself is sacrosanct. Our whole system is set up to actually make widescale election fraud nearly impossible and every study ever done on voter fraud shows that it's vanishingly small. More people mismark their ballots every year than we have fraudlant votes cast.

So vote. I don't care who you are voting for but if we give up on our democratic process because we start believing that "it's rigged", if we abandon nearly 250 years of peaceful democracy because we've sold on the idea that our vote will be stolen, then we give up on one of the greatest steps forward for humanity and pave the way for strongmen and tyrants in an age where the world truly can't afford that.

-JP

[down] It should work now. If not, go to their Facebook page. Should be the first thing up there as of this writing.

edited 19th Oct '16 9:25:17 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#145441: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:23:41 PM

That link doesn't go anywhere btw

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#145442: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:23:52 PM

Also fairly sure that the Extra Credits staff despise Trump on a personal level given their established political views.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#145443: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:25:21 PM

Well I got preached to by one of the unfortunately many Trump supporters on my Facebook friends list after the debate because I said Trump lost his composure after Clinton mocked him about choking with Mexico (which he totally did).

Then again she apparently never went to college and got married and pregnant right out of high school so I'm not surprised. Like a lot of Trump supporters she can't even come up with a reason why Hillary is bad other than "Dur hur she lies a lot." Yeah, and Trump doesn't?

edited 19th Oct '16 9:30:14 PM by theLibrarian

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#145444: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:27:35 PM

[up][up]Most people despise Trump on a personal level.

edited 19th Oct '16 9:27:47 PM by Clarste

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#145446: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:32:42 PM

They usually try to avoid politics, but year what Trump's saying is dangerous.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
Keep Hope Alive
#145449: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:45:51 PM

[up][up] Eh, it doesn't seem that bad to me. Vulgar, sure but actually offensive? Ehhhhh

Stand Fast, Stand Strong, Stand Together
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#145450: Oct 19th 2016 at 9:46:43 PM

I'm pretty sure that "mulatto" is a pretty racist way of saying mixed-race (specifically half-Black, I believe?).

Oh God! Natural light!

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