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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#145401: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:00:51 PM

I totally cringed when Trump said, "hombre."

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#145402: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:00:54 PM

To the poster who was freaking out about "war with Russia"...do you honestly believe that the USA has never shot down Russian planes before? Is that a thing that you think has never happened?

American and Soviet pilots came into direct conflict with one another repeatedly during the Cold War, particularly in the Korean War and Vietnam War where new planes granted to the North Korean, Chinese, and North Vietnamese air forces were frequently flown by the Soviet instructors who had come along with them. In the case of the Korean War this happened when no less a man than Josef Stalin was running the USSR. The world is still here.

So breathe easy. There is no real risk of war with Russia and zero risk of a nuclear war with Russia. You should be more concerned about Trump winning and then deciding to invade France at random because he doesn't like something their president said about him (a move which, by the way, almost certainly would lead to a nuclear war).

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#145403: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:01:31 PM

Actually, this does make me wonder how the election will look in school history books.

Hopefully as just a horrible aberration in the democratic process.

The last time our people refused to acknowledge a victorious election, the country ripped in half and one out of every fifty Americans were sacrificed to save it, including the president.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:05:12 PM by Parable

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#145404: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:04:08 PM

[up][up]Right, sorry.

Yeah, I know Trump would be worse in every regard, and I would never trust him at the helm of the military.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#145405: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:06:44 PM

If anything goes by, 2016 is a weird year for the history of democracy not just in the US but everywhere else.

Brexit winning, the impeachment in Brazil, Duterte being elected and declaring drug users and dealers being fair game to kill in Philippines, Putin trying to mess the democratic process of the US and EU, an egomaniac Orange competing with HRC for the US Presidency.

Inter arma enim silent leges
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#145407: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:08:47 PM

Glenn Beck ‏@glennbeck 29m29 minutes ago When trump says he respect women, does that include him saying 'such a nasty women' in a presidential debate?

Beck da gawd.

New Survey coming this weekend!
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#145408: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:11:17 PM

@Link to the Future

Anytime you are worried about open war between the US and Russia or the US and China, just remind yourself that the world survived the Cold War and all that entailed, from Russian and American pilots dueling one another in jets, to battles between American tanks and Chinese human wave attacks in Korea.

Speaking of which, another point against good old Douglas MacArthur? He was told repeatedly that if his troops so much as touched the Yalu River in North Korea, the Chinese would cross the border. He ignored them. Half a million Chinese troops landed on him and drove him back into South Korea. Trump's favourite general, ladies and gentlemen.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#145409: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:15:16 PM

Go Beck, go. grin

I'm still scared of what could happen in the next 20 days and even afterwards, but I don't like being scared all the time. At least I survived the debates.

Do not obey in advance.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#145410: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:15:58 PM

I already knew that fun little tidbit about good ol' General MacArthur. Truly the epitome of great generalship, going against the government and dragging the Chinese into the war.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#145411: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:16:16 PM

Unfortunate name pairings in local Congressional election events: Just saw a news spot promoting the "Assini-Slaughter Debate"

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#145413: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:17:24 PM

@Trump invading France: the one silver lining if Trump wins is that for the first time since Chirac, the French president will not look like a moron compared to an American one. It would be kinda glorious to imagine a meeting between Trump and possibly Juppé, who is smart, well-educated, eloquent, cold and haughty.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:18:34 PM by Julep

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#145414: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:18:55 PM

[up] Bush's contemporary(s?) looked moronic next to him?

edited 19th Oct '16 8:19:02 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#145415: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:20:25 PM

Unfortunate name pairings in local Congressional election events: Just saw a news spot promoting the "Assini-Slaughter Debate"

[lol]

You can't make this stuff up.

Do not obey in advance.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#145416: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:21:20 PM

Obama didn't override the Supreme Court's ruling that declared gay marriage to be a state-by-state issue.

That's not actually something the President has the power to do anyway. The only power he has over the Supreme Court is nominating appointees, which Obama did twice (and would have done a third if Congress would let him). Although I suppose in that sense you could say he's responsible for the opinions of the Supreme Court.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#145417: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:24:50 PM

So, I thought one time that Trump was badly rattled was when the subject of Russia came up. Did you guys think there were any other occasions when things got under his skin?

Oh God! Natural light!
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#145418: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:24:54 PM

The Supreme Court is responsible for the opinions of the Supreme Court. The president can influence those opinions by appointees confirmed by the Senate, but once those old folks get those black robes they become the law of the land and don't owe the president anything.

Justice Roberts is a perfect example of someone who doesn't toe the line of the party that put him there.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:25:30 PM by Parable

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#145419: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:25:29 PM

Bush's contemporary(s?) looked moronic next to him?

Sarkozy had some self-esteem issues...

Inter arma enim silent leges
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#145420: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:25:40 PM

http://nastywomengetshitdone.com/

Holy shit.

Her team is ON POINT

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#145421: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:26:29 PM

[up]x7 Chirac left in 2007. Sarkozy did look pathetic next to anyone - Trump might be the sole exception, and it wouldn't even be obvious.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:27:01 PM by Julep

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#145422: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:29:38 PM

@Clarste: I didn't know that.

It would appear that the "nasty woman" comment is backfiring, especially on Twitter. I don't think he can recover from all the nasty things he's said about women in the campaign. Though he was already polling poorly with women.

Do not obey in advance.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#145423: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:29:53 PM

For stuff that Obama would be directly involved in, the Iran deal (if you approve of it; I do) and normalizing relations with Cuba are a couple of pretty major things.

I-Teleported-Bread Since: Jul, 2016
#145424: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:30:48 PM

i've heard that as a desperation attack, trump wants to have his supporters become "poll watchers" and intimidate his opponents' voters so he can have the upper hand. isn't this illegal?

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#145425: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:31:56 PM

@Ambar: If one wants to make a case for the existence of God, the fact that the cold war didn't end in nuclear Armageddon is probably the most compelling piece of evidence. There are at least a dozen occasions that are known about on the American side where we were one split second decision away from doomsday, and in at least one case a split second decision by an officer not to inform his superiors about an apparent first strike by the United States.

MAD is all fine and good until it turns out somebody isn't bluffing and/or simple paranoia and sensor malfunctions lead to a retaliation against a nonexistent attack.

[up] Yes. It probably won't stop them from trying, and we'll have to see whether or not the police actually intervene.

edited 19th Oct '16 8:32:37 PM by CaptainCapsase


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