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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
To the poster who was freaking out about "war with Russia"...do you honestly believe that the USA has never shot down Russian planes before? Is that a thing that you think has never happened?
American and Soviet pilots came into direct conflict with one another repeatedly during the Cold War, particularly in the Korean War and Vietnam War where new planes granted to the North Korean, Chinese, and North Vietnamese air forces were frequently flown by the Soviet instructors who had come along with them. In the case of the Korean War this happened when no less a man than Josef Stalin was running the USSR. The world is still here.
So breathe easy. There is no real risk of war with Russia and zero risk of a nuclear war with Russia. You should be more concerned about Trump winning and then deciding to invade France at random because he doesn't like something their president said about him (a move which, by the way, almost certainly would lead to a nuclear war).
Hopefully as just a horrible aberration in the democratic process.
The last time our people refused to acknowledge a victorious election, the country ripped in half and one out of every fifty Americans were sacrificed to save it, including the president.
edited 19th Oct '16 8:05:12 PM by Parable
If anything goes by, 2016 is a weird year for the history of democracy not just in the US but everywhere else.
Brexit winning, the impeachment in Brazil, Duterte being elected and declaring drug users and dealers being fair game to kill in Philippines, Putin trying to mess the democratic process of the US and EU, an egomaniac Orange competing with HRC for the US Presidency.
Inter arma enim silent leges@Link to the Future
Anytime you are worried about open war between the US and Russia or the US and China, just remind yourself that the world survived the Cold War and all that entailed, from Russian and American pilots dueling one another in jets, to battles between American tanks and Chinese human wave attacks in Korea.
Speaking of which, another point against good old Douglas MacArthur? He was told repeatedly that if his troops so much as touched the Yalu River in North Korea, the Chinese would cross the border. He ignored them. Half a million Chinese troops landed on him and drove him back into South Korea. Trump's favourite general, ladies and gentlemen.
Trump lost Fox News again. https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/788939815253344256
@Trump invading France: the one silver lining if Trump wins is that for the first time since Chirac, the French president will not look like a moron compared to an American one. It would be kinda glorious to imagine a meeting between Trump and possibly Juppé, who is smart, well-educated, eloquent, cold and haughty.
edited 19th Oct '16 8:18:34 PM by Julep
Bush's contemporary(s?) looked moronic next to him?
edited 19th Oct '16 8:19:02 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!That's not actually something the President has the power to do anyway. The only power he has over the Supreme Court is nominating appointees, which Obama did twice (and would have done a third if Congress would let him). Although I suppose in that sense you could say he's responsible for the opinions of the Supreme Court.
So, I thought one time that Trump was badly rattled was when the subject of Russia came up. Did you guys think there were any other occasions when things got under his skin?
Oh God! Natural light!The Supreme Court is responsible for the opinions of the Supreme Court. The president can influence those opinions by appointees confirmed by the Senate, but once those old folks get those black robes they become the law of the land and don't owe the president anything.
Justice Roberts is a perfect example of someone who doesn't toe the line of the party that put him there.
edited 19th Oct '16 8:25:30 PM by Parable
@Ambar: If one wants to make a case for the existence of God, the fact that the cold war didn't end in nuclear Armageddon is probably the most compelling piece of evidence. There are at least a dozen occasions that are known about on the American side where we were one split second decision away from doomsday, and in at least one case a split second decision by an officer not to inform his superiors about an apparent first strike by the United States.
MAD is all fine and good until it turns out somebody isn't bluffing and/or simple paranoia and sensor malfunctions lead to a retaliation against a nonexistent attack.
Yes. It probably won't stop them from trying, and we'll have to see whether or not the police actually intervene.
edited 19th Oct '16 8:32:37 PM by CaptainCapsase

I totally cringed when Trump said, "hombre."
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."