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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#145376: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:43:11 PM

@kkhohoho

I mean, I'd call it mediocre if you want.

Did Obama do anything huge of note? Things that will be remembered and referenced decades from now.

edited 19th Oct '16 7:43:42 PM by hardcorefakes

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#145377: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:44:02 PM

Summing up Trump:

  • No one respects women more than me
  • Such nasty woman

[up]The thing about Obama isn't that he did great things, is that he managed to govern well despise all the house being stacked against him.

Inherited a massive economic crisis and two wars in foreign soil, had to deal with a Republican congress and senate actively trying to undermine him and overall had to deal with the fallout of a strong recession.

edited 19th Oct '16 7:46:51 PM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#145378: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:44:06 PM

[up][up]Enjoy at your leisure.

http://www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

edited 19th Oct '16 7:44:19 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#145379: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:44:30 PM

Dealt with what has been probably the single worst Congress in the history of the United States? Obamacare?

Oh really when?
SpaceWolf from The Other Rainforest Since: Apr, 2012
#145380: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:44:58 PM

Republicans dismiss Obama as horrible. Realistically, he's okay.

This is a signature.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#145381: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:45:22 PM

Off the top of my head Obamacare, named two justices on the Supreme Court which is always a big deal, gay marriage and the end of DODT under his watch.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#145382: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:45:30 PM

I felt like Clinton, despite a couple of obvious dodges, completely owned the debate. It always went where she wanted to, and for the first time I got the feeling that she left him without an answer to the punches she gave - not even "Wong".

It is also quite obvious Trump was thoroughly unprepared for the debates. Comparing both final statements really says it all about the candidates.

And the moderator was excellent.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#145383: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:45:40 PM

Obama didn't override the Supreme Court's ruling that declared gay marriage to be a state-by-state issue.

edited 19th Oct '16 7:46:28 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#145384: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:46:03 PM

Wow, Trump's campaign manager just left without fully answering the question.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#145385: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:46:20 PM

He's a slightly above average President as far as aggregates of scholarly opinions go.

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#145386: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:46:20 PM

Saved my life with Obamacare. And millions of other lives.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#145387: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:46:22 PM

CNN's saying that he did alright at first, but that refusing to say that he would accept the results was a huge misstep, and that his failure to press her on stuff like the Bill Clinton allegations in favor of defending himself wasn't good either.

Right now, they're calling it a "disaster" for Trump.

Oh God! Natural light!
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#145388: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:47:39 PM

Guys, gotta give Wallace credit for one thing: The debate finished on time tonight. It's a freaking miracle.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#145389: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:48:06 PM

[up][up] NBC called it the most normal debate of the election. Is CNN in the minority here or the majority.

edited 19th Oct '16 7:48:26 PM by CaptainCapsase

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#145390: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:48:06 PM

That's how it usually goes, Trump does alright in the first 20 minutes but then loses his cool/gets baited and runs himself into the ground.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#145391: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:48:35 PM

I'll give him legalizing gay marriage everywhere as a pretty huge contribution. But other than that....well, he was just fine, I suppose.

In any case, Donald Trump doesn't know how countries (or politics) work, so that's already more than enough reason to ignore him in favor of Clinton.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#145392: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:48:49 PM

To expand on what I said last page, Dana Bash was interviewing Kelly Ann Conway, asking her if Trump was going to accept a loss and she just said some nonsense crap before leaving her hanging, literally.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#145393: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:49:22 PM

The LA times scored the debate on each issue.

A little over half are wins for Clinton, a little under half were tied. No Trump wins.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#145394: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:49:22 PM

Didn't he say it actually went over a little?

I think Trump's continued refusal to agree to concede the election is what's going to echo from this debate. That's a no-no for even the most conservative people who aren't on the alt-right.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#145395: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:51:10 PM

-whoops-

edited 19th Oct '16 7:51:29 PM by AlleyOop

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#145396: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:52:05 PM

It is also quite obvious Trump was thoroughly unprepared for the debates. Comparing both final statements really says it all about the candidates.

I didn't get to watch the debate but does Trump look like someone who would actually bother to properly prepare for anything regardless of its importance?

He was probably like "Hahaha, preparation is for losers and nerds!!! I'll just go there and blow her away, just like I did last time!!! Go me!!!".

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#145397: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:54:14 PM

...I haven't watched the debate as I'm studying for my Arabic Midterm at LSU but I've managed to catch some bits here and there on 538 and the idea that he may or may not accept the election results if he loses is just...even if this is just more empty talk, this, this is legitimately dangerous. The idea that someone could seriously try to claim this contradicts one of the unspoken foundations of Democracy: if somebody loses, they accept the loss. To not accept your loss, to try to put out a conspiracy theory about the election being rigged, it undermines the basic ideal that makes democracy worthwhile. To try to pull this bullshit...I was waiting for this election to be over so I could get the mouthwash but now I feel like the taint of this will never leave us. Mr. Drumpf, you should just stayed a shitty reality show host, a shitty businessman, and a overall piece of shit. At least then, your actions wouldn't affect HISTORY itself.

Is this what feels like to be a part of history? To watch things go south and not be able to stop it? That's what it feels like: we're about to turn a page in the history books and head into some SHIT.

Actually, this does make me wonder how the election will look in school history books.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#145398: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:55:58 PM

That's Trump's modus operandi; if he can't have the white house, he'll do his best to make sure the country is ungovernable for whoever beats him.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#145399: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:55:59 PM

I may be misremembering but I remember the first two debates pushing past 11pm which is the normal start time for late night local news.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#145400: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:56:01 PM

[up][up][up][up]"I'll tell you what, I'll tell you something, Hillary Clinton's arguments are all disasters. A complete mess - and her husband agrees with me. So I don't really have to prepare anything."

edited 19th Oct '16 7:56:16 PM by hardcorefakes


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