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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#145001: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:09:40 PM

I mean, surely people are allowed to privately complain and crack jokes about the bullshit parts of their job.

Like, if she'd said that in public, fully aware of the fact the world would know she said that, they'd be something worth talking about here, but she didn't.

edited 19th Oct '16 2:12:05 PM by Gilphon

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#145002: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:11:03 PM

I don't think he was aware of the political ramifications of Kanye's action, and Kanye is a jackass by all accounts, and Kanye is not a demographic of political activists, he is one private citizen acting as such.

Sanders calls certain folks "bigots" and "disgusting" very often.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#145003: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:13:15 PM

I mean, whatever legitimate issues there are with Clinton's relatability or connecting with people, actually saying she's not allowed to voice frustrations in less than polite terms, when in private just sounds unreasonable.

[up]That just makes it sound like attacking voting blocks and demographics is okay as long as you disagree with them. Which is, again, something everyone does.

edited 19th Oct '16 2:16:08 PM by LSBK

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#145004: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:15:58 PM

[up][up] Which of Kanye's actions are you referring too?

Because I believe that Obama was referring to him interrupting Taylor Swift at the MTV music awards.

edited 19th Oct '16 2:16:07 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#145005: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:20:53 PM

Which of Kanye's actions are you referring too?

All of them!

edited 19th Oct '16 2:21:04 PM by AngelusNox

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Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#145006: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:34:21 PM

Obama's also been frequently candid and impolitic in tone lately (the last two years) due to a lame duck status and finally coming to terms with the protracted campaign of disinformation and slander which has been waged against him from the moment he entered our general awareness, and we laud him for it. Clinton is in a similar situation, and I'm not remotely inclined to hold her feet to the fire for a relatively private and impatient slip-up against political novices who want ideal solutions to everything, such as ourselves at times.

edited 19th Oct '16 2:35:48 PM by Artificius

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#145008: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:48:48 PM

Wait the final debate is today?

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#145009: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:50:56 PM

[up]Yep. Get your popcorn ready.

edited 19th Oct '16 2:51:39 PM by nightwyrm_zero

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#145010: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:56:11 PM

I thought it was later.

Oh really when?
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#145012: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:03:02 PM

WTF's a McMullin? Is It Something You Eat??

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#145013: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:03:46 PM

It's like a McMuffin, but more introspective.

edited 19th Oct '16 3:04:13 PM by sgamer82

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#145014: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:03:51 PM

Frankly, I'm surprised that the phrase "Get a life" inspired such an angry reaction out of anyone, considering that it's probably one of the mildest things you could say about anybody. Like, if that's your problem with someone, that's an indication there's not many problems to be had.

Regarding the energy stuff; she's come out against the pipeline, and given public pressure is unlikely to switch back. Politicians, as much as people like to complain about flip flopping, do bow to social pressure because doing what the public wants is why they get elected. At least partially. And, as politicians, and president specifically, she and any other candidate would necessarily have to be concerned about what happens to the people employed by certain industries when considering the switch over to cleaner energy. They don't get the luxury of a magic wand that makes that issue go away.

And uh... she's not running on "yes we can" or "hope and change", she's been campaigning on the fact that she's qualified and can continue the work already started. In a lot of ways, her campaign now is a lot more subdued than Obama's 2008 run.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#145015: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:05:17 PM

[up] Which is probably why Sanders and his more energetic campaign saw the success it did.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#145016: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:05:32 PM

EDIT: [nja].

Evan McMullin is a former CIA officer who's also worked in the UN refugee agency and as a banker. He's from Utah, and is duly a Mormon. He's been a Republican until he split from the party, basically because they went Trump.

edited 19th Oct '16 3:06:25 PM by BestOf

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#145017: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:08:15 PM

Personally, I think that one of the reasons people get so sore at Clinton for calling the alt-right "deplorables" and the alt-left to "get a life" is because, deep down, they know she's exactly right. In a weird way, we're willing to give Trump a pass on things that are so out there because we know that he's blatantly lying, so it sort of washes over us. When a politician delivers an insult that is perfectly accurate, it causes people to get their hackles up and hit back.

edited 19th Oct '16 3:08:45 PM by Fighteer

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#145018: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:11:22 PM

And uh... she's not running on "yes we can" or "hope and change", she's been campaigning on the fact that she's qualified and can continue the work already started. In a lot of ways, her campaign now is a lot more subdued than Obama's 2008 run.

That's exactly my point.

This is a speech from the 2004 convention.

Are you fired up? I know I am. I'm feeling US Patriotism soaring right here in my heart, and I'm not even a US citizen! Also, damn, was that only twelve years ago? This job is killing him!

A humourous retrospective on the 2008 election:

edited 19th Oct '16 3:22:38 PM by TheHandle

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#145019: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:47:59 PM

So? Anyone who has their feelings hurt by being told to get a life probably desperately needs one.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#145020: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:55:47 PM

[up] But life has sickness, death, and - worst of all - unfulfilled expectations in it. Therefore, totally not worth it. waii

edited 19th Oct '16 3:56:04 PM by nervmeister

AHI-3000 Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#145021: Oct 19th 2016 at 3:58:19 PM

Apparently, Donald Trump is being endorsed by Barack Obama's half-brother, a Kenyan Muslim named Malik Obama.

This has to rank somewhere among the strangest political news to come out lately!

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#145023: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:07:50 PM

[up]Well if dividing the country in half over difference in opinion is for the best, dividing families the same way should be a no-brainer.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#145024: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:09:02 PM

If Evan Mc Mullin ends up winning Utah, I really hope that Hillary Clinton congratulates him on doing so in her victory speech...and then never directly acknowledges Donald Trump was running at all.

Partly because I do think an independent candidate winning any electoral votes at all is something that needs to be acknowledged as important, and partly because it would hurt Donald Trump's feelings.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#145025: Oct 19th 2016 at 4:13:43 PM

I hope Clinton's acceptance speech won't be much more classy towards Trump than Trump is towards Clinton in his concession speech. Let him set the bar, then see how far above you have to go to remain civil. If he's decent - finally - Clinton should be decent to him. What's the point of kicking him when he's down?

As for Obama's brother, who the hell cares? There's no point being petty about this. Let him have his opinion - he's not even a voter.

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