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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#144876: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:06:40 PM

I don't think she's even had a direct run in with him and she just seems so done with his bullshit. It's kind of hilarious.

[up]Does it matter, at this date? The damage has been done.

edited 18th Oct '16 10:07:13 PM by AceofSpades

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#144877: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:09:02 PM

I have to admit that I also feel some schadenfreude about Trump being officially declared a "loser" on the most public possible stage.

Sadly, he'll probably be able to shrug it off and continue doing what he does.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#144878: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:10:10 PM

To what end was this decade long smear campaign anyways? Obviously they'll talk shit about any democrat but I got the impression they REALLY had it out for the clintons.

[up] Trump is remarkably thin-skinned but he also never learns anything. No verbal beatdown will ever motivate him to act in any way other than what he already does.

edited 18th Oct '16 10:11:06 PM by Draghinazzo

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#144879: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:25:36 PM

People who hate political correctness tend to be the thinnest skinned people around (not surprising, considering that they consider being told to stop insulting people to be a personal attack), but yeah, Trump will likely just play this up as the world being biased against him and return to business as usual.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#144880: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:26:59 PM

His brand has been damaged, however.

Do not obey in advance.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144881: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:51:00 PM

Question: these accusations that the DNC is sending protesters to Trump rallies - where are they coming from? Are they accurate?

Oh God! Natural light!
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#144882: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:52:07 PM

It's looking like the Presidential election in Utah is currently something of a threeway tie between Clinton, Trump, and a conservative independent named Evan McMullin, who's got a lot of support in Utah but pretty much nowhere else.

If he wins Utah's electoral votes, or if splitting the conservative vote with Trump causes the state to go to Clinton, either way he'll have earned himself a blurb in history books.

edited 18th Oct '16 11:52:55 PM by RavenWilder

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#144883: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:52:56 PM

[up][up]They're coming from Wikileaks.

Which pretty much says it all.

Oh really when?
rfindlay from Boston Since: Dec, 2014
#144884: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:55:09 PM

AFAIK they're from the same jackass involved with the ACORN and PP tapes that got the Republicans all riled up but later turned out to have been cut up and edited.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144885: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:55:15 PM

[up][up] Okay, but there was apparently some sort of video?

I'd like more details than that, is all I'm saying.

[up] Oh. Now I'm very interested.

edited 18th Oct '16 11:55:46 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#144886: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:57:35 PM

Outright staged in the case of the ACORN one.

Oh really when?
rfindlay from Boston Since: Dec, 2014
#144887: Oct 18th 2016 at 11:59:43 PM

[up] [up] Here you go. I'd quote the article as IIRC WaPo has a soft pay wall but I'm on mobile at the moment.

edited 19th Oct '16 12:03:26 AM by rfindlay

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#144890: Oct 19th 2016 at 12:02:37 AM

That's not even like, an issue that's currently in the headlines.

Oh really when?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#144891: Oct 19th 2016 at 12:07:40 AM

[up]x3 My guess is that moron Cruz tweeted that article link due to the headline that bashes HRC without actually reading it.

Disgusted, but not surprised
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144892: Oct 19th 2016 at 12:16:59 AM

Alright, having read the article, it sounds like that while the videos were edited, there also seems to have been some truth to these accusations.

Seriously, what are the facts here?

edited 19th Oct '16 12:17:12 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#144893: Oct 19th 2016 at 12:19:10 AM

Reminder: James O'Keefe practically needs to perform Manipulative Editing of something in order to maintain lower brain functions.

[up]Not terribly many. Those people whose quotes he presented out of context and cut up worked for the Florida Democratic Party, not Hillary's campaign.

edited 19th Oct '16 12:21:14 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144894: Oct 19th 2016 at 12:41:38 AM

Oh wow, okay, this guy isn't reliable in the slightest. So of course, Trump uses his stuff.

Oh God! Natural light!
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#144895: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:06:03 AM

Confirmation bias is a wonderful thing.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144896: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:11:31 AM

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton condemned the “radical environmentalists” behind Bernie Sanders’ campaign, indicating they should “get a life,” according to a transcript of her comments at a September 2015 meeting with a construction union.

There's a lot more stuff in these leaked emails showing that she's into fracking and the XL pipeline and against those who protest it.

Fuck you, Hil. You're lucky Trump is your opponent.

Also, screw those Democrats who chose her. Hillary may be qualified to run the USA, but certainly not to lead them. Now we're (stuck) with her.

edited 19th Oct '16 1:12:14 AM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#144897: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:50:47 AM

Take it with a grain of salt, man. Russia's been caught manipulating the information in the e-mails before it goes to Wikileaks, so while it's unfortunately possible that she said those things and that she sees fracking entirely in terms of its merits (we're a net exporter again, political calculus is easier), we're no longer able to give Wikileaks the benefit of the doubt, if indeed we ever were. And I caucused for Sanders, but that didn't read like she was going after Sanders supporters as a whole, just a disaffected group focused on an ideal solution to our energy problems.

edited 19th Oct '16 1:56:21 AM by Artificius

"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144898: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:53:20 AM

While I disagree with her on fracking (though the state law here seems to have been doing a good job keeping that out) she's not totally wrong about oil. You can't simply flip off oil production like a lightswitch without consideration for what replaces it and what jobs would be obsoleted by it.

(Incidentally, if my mom gets wind of her being pro-fracking then trying to swing her back toward Hillary is going to be a lost cause. It's the one big national political issue that is very locally relevant here.)

edited 19th Oct '16 1:56:43 AM by Elle

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144899: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:55:39 AM

Given her own history of activism, that "get a life" comment really rubs me the wrong way.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#144900: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:03:37 AM

There's apparently something in there to like about Clinton if you're pro-nuclear power, since the Russians or the other powers-that-be seem unlikely to fabricate that particular bias.

edited 19th Oct '16 2:06:11 AM by Artificius

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