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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#144701: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:38:16 PM

@assange: called it. wikileaks tweet about is hilarious "We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of Clinton's Goldman Sachs speechs."

I give them a day before they start calling the nation (((Ecuador)))

@smalltowns: outside of a Basic Income system I don't see much hope for low density areas and ironically that would probably be fiercely opposed by the very people it helps.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#144702: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:40:10 PM

So, if Ecuador does kick Assange out, will the British police more or less immediately detain him? Or does he have a prayer of getting to another friendly diplomatic facility (ie: the Russian embassy)?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#144703: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:41:09 PM

Good for Shep, I say.

I heard that someone said it would have been better "if a non-Muslim" did the terrorist attack on San Bernardino?

Why did Ecuador take away Wikileaks' Internet access?

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#144704: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:44:33 PM

I've got a soft spot for farmers (my grandfather had one after he stopped working for Kodak back in the day), so I'm gonna side with helping revitalize small towns and rural areas. They've still got a place in the world, and urban areas aren't the only ones that matter.

Here is still the problem of racism and bigotry in those small towns, but those can be battled, rather than letting the towns just die off.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144705: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:51:08 PM

[up][up]Just Assange's internet (he's holed up at the Ecuadorian embassy in London and by many accounts is a rude guest on top of continuing to create international incidents). Wikileaks is other people beside Assange. No reasoning has been given by anyone yet.

edited 17th Oct '16 3:51:36 PM by Elle

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#144706: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:51:56 PM

Hmm... It doesn't seem too wise to be a rude guest to an embassy that took you in.

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#144707: Oct 17th 2016 at 3:57:12 PM

@ small towns: When Young Urban Professionals (Yuppies) find themselves on the verge of becoming Middle-Aged Suburban Professionals (Maspies?), they like to move out of their apartment or "townhome" in the city, and relocate to some picturesque small town where they can build their dream house and raise their family in an idyllic setting.

Then, once they settle in, they begin complaining about the negative aspects of country living — like having to drive ten miles to the nearest convenience store for a quart of milk. Or the godawful stench when the farmers spread liquid sewage on their fields. Or — I shit you not — calling up the local dairy farmer and complaining that his cows are mooing loudly early in the mornings when they need to be milked, and interrupting the city-slickers' sleep.

Fortunately, I read recently that the McMansion is now passé in new housing construction...

edited 17th Oct '16 4:38:56 PM by pwiegle

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144708: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:10:08 PM

Yeah, having grown up mostly in small town and rural area, if you have the social mobility to live wherever you want, I don't recommend the country unless you actually love the country, cows and all. At the very least, pick a town or suburb with a decent school district and preferably (for me) not further than 30 minutes from a reasonable urban center.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#144709: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:11:03 PM

@Ecuador: We don't know why yet but in terms of plausibility i'd say it goes something like:

a: Ecuador's continued housing of a political enemy of the US is doing them no favors and they may be at the point of passive aggressively trying to get him to leave

b: The staff is so annoyed with jules they took action outside of their government wishes

c: jules is losing his marbles and forgot they changed the wifi password.

d: this is all in preparation for clinton to personally break into the embassy with seal team 6 and execute him.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#144710: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:11:47 PM

Can we please not joke about executing people?

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A procrastination in of itself
#144711: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:20:20 PM

If Assange gets kicked out there will be two fellows from the Met waiting at the door to arrest him, he'll be put strait on a plane to Sweden (assuming we don't want to charge him for breach to bail over in the UK).

As for farming, don't a lot of the big farmers in some areas tend to use illegal or short term migrant labour? So fruit pickers either just for the summer or illegal ones, as Americans won't do jobs like fruit picking? If rural Americans were more willing to do such jobs and such jobs were more appetising some of the issues might be avoided.

On rural living in general, as someone who grew up in rural England I can attest to folks who move out to the country then complain about the smell whent he farmer is muck spreading on the fields.

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Warder of the damned
#144712: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:24:07 PM

I have lived for a while in Rural areas, while I got used to the smell and animals, which I was kinda OK with that because I really liked handing poultry and dairy animals, but the isolation, crappy work and outright backwardness of the place made me loathe it.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144713: Oct 17th 2016 at 4:31:11 PM

[up][up]That would have some ripple effects. All that migrant labor (and factory farming too) keeps food cheap. Anything that couldn't be mechanized would go up sharply in price (and most of the picking jobs that depend on human labor are those that no one has figured out how to mechanize yet).

edited 17th Oct '16 4:31:28 PM by Elle

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#144714: Oct 17th 2016 at 5:09:55 PM

So, I just watched the debate between Marco Rubio (running for reelection to his Senate seat, despite promising not to during the presidential primary) and Patrick Murphy (the Democratic nominee opposing him). Marco Rubio honestly terrifies me because the man has no moral scruples whatsoever, but is legitimately a phenomenal public speaker. He's willing to shift to whatever position will benefit him at the moment, and his talent for public speaking lets him excel in a post-fact environment. The best thing I can say about the debate is that it at least convinced me that Patrick Murphy isn't a complete idiot, which is good given that I'd never heard of him before the primary. (He's currently serving in the House, but his district is a few hours south of where I live.)

Rubio did a really good job of appealing to the "a pox on both their houses" crowd by attacking Clinton and Trump, while simultaneously refusing to retract his endorsement of Trump. Probably the most notable thing that happened in regards to national politics during the debate is that Rubio refused to rule out a 2020 presidential run (while making it sound like he was, since he was under attack for his abysmal attendance record in the Senate due to his spending so much time campaigning).

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#144716: Oct 17th 2016 at 5:34:40 PM

Now let's cease the "violence on an individual" talk right now.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#144718: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:36:03 PM

I'm seriously hoping that Wikileaks has nothing truly damaging on the Clinton campaign.

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A procrastination in of itself
#144719: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:37:53 PM

If they did they'd have released it. I'm still not ruling out the entire "Assange has lost internet" thing being staged to try and draw media attention away from the sexual assault actusations aimed at Trump.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#144720: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:42:56 PM

Surely they'd be accusing the Dems instead of Ecuador if that was the idea. Because as is, it's just kind of an excuse for the absence of anything news-worthy, nevermind anything big enough to distract from Trump.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#144722: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:48:13 PM

Most of what winds up on Wikileaks' Twitter is very heavily spun.

And then there's this guy, who is posting fake Wikileaks docs to confuse and discredit people who can't be bothered to research the memes they're sharing.

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#144723: Oct 17th 2016 at 6:49:10 PM

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I'm getting an error from that link.

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Lost in Space
#144724: Oct 17th 2016 at 7:19:27 PM

[up] The apostrophes in the URL break the encoding. I reached it through the MSN news front page and put it through a shortener: http://tinyurl.com/zw5hkcj

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#144725: Oct 17th 2016 at 7:21:27 PM

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