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Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#144551: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:53:11 AM

Before Trump's tape came out, the controversial locker room talk was Colin Kapernick's interview defending the BLM movement.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#144552: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:54:14 AM

Men are treating this as a normal election, women are not.

This already been pretty apparent but it never hurts to go further.

edited 17th Oct '16 8:56:06 AM by LSBK

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#144553: Oct 17th 2016 at 8:59:18 AM

Did anyone watch Last Week Tonight? Oliver really ripped into Johnson and Stein.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144554: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:00:11 AM

Well, they've earned it.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144555: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:01:08 AM

[up][up]Stein is the hero this country deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#144556: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:02:42 AM

Would this be the appropriate thread for discussing the North Dakota Pipeline? I think I already brought it up before here. A bunch of contractors are building this oil pipeline on Native American land. The story that's trending right now is how this journalist is facing charges for, well reporting it. Personally I think this is drawing attention away from the main issue, which is how these companies are screwing over these people

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#144557: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:04:07 AM

[up][up] Stein isn't even remotely qualified for the job, and even if she were, the political demographic she represents has absolutely no business anywhere near the government of this country.

[up] The North Dakota pipeline conflict has been mentioned before in this thread but hasn't gotten a lot of attention other than head shaking and acknowledgment that it's pretty shitty.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:05:50 AM by Fighteer

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144558: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:06:12 AM

Saw mention of it earlier today (and earlier still - that's the cause Jill Stein was protesting when she got an arrest warrant for vandalism put out on her) and that event is getting so little coverage (admittedly, election season) that any publicity it can get in favor of the cause is positive.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#144559: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:06:14 AM

[up][up][up][up]She thinks "wireless" causes cancer, uses anti-vaxxer dog whistles and has questionable ties to Russia as well. Yeah, no.

[up][up][up]I recall hearing that there was a federal government order to stop work already in place shortly after the arrest of the reporter, but my recollection is rather vague.

EDIT: Moved to a new post

edited 17th Oct '16 9:10:12 AM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144560: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:08:38 AM

[up]Seriously, Russia again!? Where will Russia pop up in domestic politics next? At this rate, I'm expecting members of American school boards to have shady ties with Russia.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:11:01 AM by nervmeister

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144561: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:09:46 AM

That pipeline gesture was good on her. That bullshit needs to stop. If it weren't for trump, it would be top priority.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#144562: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:10:48 AM

Stein is an idiot even if she might not be as immediately disastrous as Trump or Johnson. Hillary is the only remotely qualified person.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#144563: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:11:25 AM

[up][up]Eh, no. Vandalizing equipment as a form of protest is illegal, however one may view it from a moral point of view, and if all of Hillary's non-crimes can be held against her, actual crimes ought to be taken even more seriously from another candidate.

[up] I won't go so far as to say that Stein is an idiot; she might be quite smart, for all I know. However, she is most certainly willing to act as the spokesperson for some blatantly stupid and fact-immune people, and that's more than enough to disqualify her for me.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:13:28 AM by Fighteer

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#144564: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:11:59 AM

Remember Kathy Shelton? The woman whose rapist was defended by Hillary Clinton? The one who's been attacking her for that? She was paid $2500 by Roger Stone's PAC to do that. Well, this would vindicate manosphere types if doing so wasn't in their benefit...

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144565: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:12:33 AM

[up][up][up]Stein just needs to stop consulting with the psychic flea god that lives in her left nostril, and she'd be the perfect President.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:12:54 AM by nervmeister

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#144566: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:14:09 AM

Pence says GOP ticket will 'absolutely' accept vote outcome. He certainly seems like he's trying to frame himself as the more reasonable of the two.

Fortunately, there's one more debate still to come, so Trump still has an opportunity to shit on Pence's efforts. "We haven't talked about that and I completely disagree!"

What the Hell is up with the association between Anime and the Alt-Right?

There's a mild overlap because the less-than-progressive cultural values expressed in Japanese media tend to be very appealing to the same kind of people who go Alt-Right. I get where it's coming from; Japan's not exactly a bastion of racial or sexual equality, and their lop-sided social values seep into anime a lot - and are ultimately similar to the values that Alt-Righters are pushing for.

However, I would say more Alt-Righters are anime fans than anime fans are Alt-Righters. Not everyone watches anime and goes, "Yeah, now THAT'S a woman who knows her place, whoop whoop!"

The Anime association is weird, but the Pony one is absurd. That show is completely at odds with everything the Alt-Right stands for.

You'd be amazed at how many people with MLP:FIM avatars I've seen unironically arguing antifeminist talking points about how men are the REAL victims, rape culture's a lie, etc. etc. For some reason, the show has a massive following with MRAs and lop-sided EgalitariansHey! .

I can't help but wonder how much of its appeal from men comes from having a bunch of female characters with cute voices and attractive personalities, rather than anything the show is actually supposed to be about.

I call bullshit on the heritage thing when I've seen people in UNION states with confederate flags. Like Wisconsin and Minnesota. There's only one reason that someone from a Union state would wave that thing: To stick it to minorities.

Hell, I saw a pickup truck driving around with two confederate flags sticking up in the back just a couple months ago. I'm in Colorado. We weren't even a STATE yet!

This election has brought out the crazy in a lot of people.

Remember Kathy Shelton? The woman whose rapist was defended by Hillary Clinton? The one who's been attacking her for that? She was paid $2500 by Roger Stone's PAC to do that. Well, this would vindicate manosphere types if doing so wasn't in their benefit...

I mean, that's not exactly a lot of money. I make that in a month, and I'm on the poverty side.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:16:09 AM by TobiasDrake

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144567: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:15:53 AM

[up][up][up][up]To the extent that you can take spray painting a bulldozer seriously anyway. It's dumb and unbecoming a would-be President but no one's losing their shirt, job or life over it.

[down]Multiple? Do we have a tall tale growing in the telling here or were there actual other incidents?

edited 17th Oct '16 9:17:53 AM by Elle

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#144568: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:16:00 AM

Yeah no. Stein doesn't understand how government works and she's a conspiracy promoting fool. That's on top of the fact that she committed multiple acts of vandalism. She'd be a national embarrassment.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144569: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:16:33 AM

@Vandalizing: Dude, are you bringing up legality on a protest against government-sanctioned crimes? What cliché are you going to line up next, that it's disruptive? Going too fast? A response to something that's not really a problem?

Legality is not a measure of morality. Not where digital piracy and dealing pot can land you in jail longer than rape and murder, and big business get away with horrible crimes with a slap on the wrist and no admission of wrongdoing.

Doesn't mean I'm endorsing her. She's a horrible presidential candidate. I'm just congratulating her on one good thing she did.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:18:08 AM by TheHandle

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Lost in Space
#144570: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:18:29 AM

[up] If Clinton had spray-painted a bulldozer, the "fair and balanced" media would be holding mock debates about whether public opinion calls for her execution, and you know it. The only reason nobody takes it seriously is because Stein is already a fucking joke.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:21:15 AM by Fighteer

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144571: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:19:17 AM

You'd be amazed at how many people with MLP:FIM avatars I've seen unironically arguing antifeminist talking points about how men are the REAL victims, rape culture's a lie, etc. etc. For some reason, the show has a massive MRA following. I can't help but wonder how much of its appeal from men comes from having a bunch of female characters with cute voices and attractive personalities, rather than anything the show is actually supposed to be about.
"Equestria = America today, where whimsical adventure prevails and there are NO crippling social issues whatsoever. But feminists seek to tear it all down because of their insatiable lust for the misery of others." tongue

edited 17th Oct '16 9:24:39 AM by nervmeister

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144572: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:23:33 AM

@Handle: Protestors need to endeavor to maintain the legal high ground as much as possible (unless it's clearly civil disobedience in the face of an obviously unjust law). Failing to do so undermines their position in public opinion and gives their opponents excuses to dismiss and/or disperse them.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#144573: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:24:58 AM

Matt Furie presents Pepe's Election Nightmare.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144574: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:25:30 AM

[up][up] What makes this case not civil disobedience?

edited 17th Oct '16 9:25:40 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#144575: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:29:05 AM

[up]Hear hear.

@Fighteer: The media are actually mean and unfair to Clinton. We get it. This isn't about her. And yes, Stein is a joke, and not even a good one. It would be much more admirable if those candidates actually had principled stances, knowing that they have absolutely no chance of winning anyway.

@Evil bronies: if they don't get that Equestria is full of problems and that the embrace of diversity, compassion, friendship, and equality that is done there is an ongoing, daily struggle, then nothing more needs to be said about their cognitive ability.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:31:27 AM by TheHandle

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