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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#144276: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:02:04 AM

He did an AMA on reddit using his actual Reddit account. His full history viewable to everyone...

Highlights include comments on r/Preggoporn, lewd comments on images from 'The fappining' hacks, calling the shooting of Travon Martin justified, comments that are either homophobic or lewd on a lesbian subreddit (the article not quite clear on it) etc.

An interview with him was also included and he basically fessed up to all of it, apologized and clarified a lot of it.

[up] No paywall for me.

edited 15th Oct '16 10:07:08 AM by Memers

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#144277: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:04:51 AM

He later went back and expanded on the travyon martin comment, saying it was legally justified but not morally so. Said a cop killing a kid doesn't improve anything for anyone.

He seems like a remarkably average guy to me tbh, a person with some decency to them but a few questionable or repulsive habits and views.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#144278: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:05:48 AM

Oh. That is something I guess, I mean...I don't see why we should care.

I though he was attacked by the internet hate mobs or something.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#144279: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:07:12 AM

I actually saw his AMA on reddit the other day. I have to admit that it was partly that which motivated my post where i voiced my annoyance at undecideds.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#144280: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:08:05 AM

The article is interesting, mostly because not that long ago there was another article claiming the exact opposite, written by a man who lived in rural America, stating that things were nihilistically bad for them in those areas and that many of them had been suckered by Trump's rhetoric.

Of course, an article with actual data is easy to take more seriously than one that is essentially a prolonged anecdote, but the contrast between the two is interesting

I'd say that both are factions that are behind Trump, and are die hard in different ways. As I see it, there are 3 different big factions behind Trump that aren't going to be dissuaded from supporting him in this election.

The most solid, hardest of the die hards are the white supremacist alt-right. They will take any chance to try to further spread their poisonous ideals, and have latched onto Trump since day 1. They're not going anywhere, and will continue being a problem after this election, as some of Goldwater's supporters did after Goldwater got crushed in '68. A few alliances later and those supporters became coalition that swept Reagan in power and have changed the course of the country ever since. Calling them out on their horrid nature just redoubles their determination and feeds into their persecution complex.

The next most solid group, according to Clarste's article and previous ones that I've seen as well, (don't have time to post them right now, I might be able to late tonight if anyone wants to see them) are white people who are doing than their peers who nonetheless have major anxiety about the future. They're not necessarily as racists as the white supremacists, but they don't have any love for minorities either, want them to shut up so it doesn't bother them. What their first priority is, however, isn't necessarily race but the fact that they see the economy changing or their once prosperous towns and cities in decline, and are scared for the future and that of their kids. Any economic recovery isn't helping them or the people around them, so they think it's a bullshit claim and want an anti-establishment paradigm change mostly because they never want to feel the fear that they or their kids might lose everything. They may not be particularly attached to a particular ideology, but they are seriously anti-globization, anti-modern, want a return to economically safer days of the past, and don't want to admit that isn't possible. These are the people who will vote for anything against the establishment, and might have happily supported Bernie too.

Last are the people who are truly down trodden, who David Wong of Cracked was mostly writing about. They've been taught since birth to be self-reliant, to never ask for help and to distrust the feds, so they won't vote Democrat, at least not en masse, (you might get some that get pulled that way for a particular election though) because it's anathema to them. They also expect things to be the way it was in past generations: to do the same work at the same factories and live the way their parents and grandparents did. They've also been taught the same way, (Republican) sometimes based on various cultural issues and it's a bit of a tribal marker. They're often ill-informed, have all but given up on things ever getting better, and are voting Trump purely because, to paraphrase Wong, it's a brick through the window of the people they think are doing just fine, who are alien to them, and mock them and how they live.

That last group is the least hardcore of the Trump supporters, and their percentages can maybe have a percentage point or two peeled off when they perceive Trump as going too far, resulting in them just staying home and Drowning Their Sorrows instead.

At least, that's my perspective, both from a combination of news and living and going to school in suburbs/quasi rural areas that were completely rural a few generations ago and where there is a fair amount of Trump support.

edited 15th Oct '16 10:10:18 AM by TheWanderer

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#144281: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:09:06 AM

[up][up][up][up] He was identified as an 'American hero' in a meme but he turned out to be a normal person thus SCANDAL!!!

edited 15th Oct '16 10:09:42 AM by Memers

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#144283: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:23:31 AM

The David Wong's article in hand.

[up][up]It shouldn't really surprise anyone that he turned out to be an average guy, his question was good but not out of the ordinary. Still seeing him trying to become a forced meme, like Milhouse, is one of those things I can't really give a single damn about.

Inter arma enim silent leges
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#144284: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:26:43 AM

The hype around Ken Bone is hilarious more because it exposes the utter inanity of the American political audience than anything about the man himself. Mr. Bone, is, big surprise, a slightly crude middle-aged man from Appalachia, and that's fine. It would be kind of weird if he had, in spite of an unregulated Internet presence, an entirely squeaky clean existence.

But he asks a completely inane question about our energy situation, one that could not possibly be answered well in two minutes, let alone in an hour-long speech, and a question, at that, to which he most desperately wanted to hear those two, mythical, idiotic words, "clean coal," and suddenly, he becomes a celebrity because he has a child molester's mustache and a grandpa's choice in clothing. Being the only audience member to ask a policy question, he could have been more incisive and pointed, but choose to let both candidate sweetly serenade him with platitudes. And he's an undecided voter in October, after months of Trump's insanity, racism, and misogyny. I mean, come on, man.

edited 15th Oct '16 10:27:03 AM by CrimsonZephyr

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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#144285: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:33:13 AM

Hey, this is something you REALLY need to check out:

will.i.am posted a satirical music video of Trump labeled "Grab them By The Pussy". I'm dying over here [lol]

Seriously, I don't listen to the Black Eyed Peas, but maybe I should start. And why can't HE be running for president? tongue

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#144286: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:36:54 AM

Better than Kanye running for sure.

edited 15th Oct '16 10:38:33 AM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#144287: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:42:47 AM

[up]x3 Honestly, I thought the Muslim girl asking a question about Islamophobia was more poignant. I do not get why or how some coal loving clueless dullard in a tacky sweater became a meme.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#144288: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:45:39 AM

Ken Bone is a funny name.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#144289: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:52:04 AM

[up][up][up] That said, imagine Kanye running with "No one man should have that much power" featuring in his attack ads

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#144290: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:52:32 AM

@ Wanderer:

The next most solid group, according to Clarste's article and previous ones that I've seen as well, (don't have time to post them right now, I might be able to late tonight if anyone wants to see them) are white people who are doing than their peers who nonetheless have major anxiety about the future. They're not necessarily as racists as the white supremacists, but they don't have any love for minorities either, want them to shut up so it doesn't bother them. What their first priority is, however, isn't necessarily race but the fact that they see the economy changing or their once prosperous towns and cities in decline, and are scared for the future and that of their kids. Any economic recovery isn't helping them or the people around them, so they think it's a bullshit claim and want an anti-establishment paradigm change mostly because they never want to feel the fear that they or their kids might lose everything. They may not be particularly attached to a particular ideology, but they are seriously anti-globization, anti-modern, want a return to economically safer days of the past, and don't want to admit that isn't possible. These are the people who will vote for anything against the establishment, and might have happily supported Bernie too.

Last are the people who are truly down trodden, who David Wong of Cracked was mostly writing about. They've been taught since birth to be self-reliant, to never ask for help and to distrust the feds, so they won't vote Democrat, at least not en masse, (you might get some that get pulled that way for a particular election though) because it's anathema to them. They also expect things to be the way it was in past generations: to do the same work at the same factories and live the way their parents and grandparents did. They've also been taught the same way, (Republican) sometimes based on various cultural issues and it's a bit of a tribal marker. They're often ill-informed, have all but given up on things ever getting better, and are voting Trump purely because, to paraphrase Wong, it's a brick through the window of the people they think are doing just fine, who are alien to them, and mock them and how they live.

Sounds familiar. Their British equivalents voted for Brexit — although they're economically (Hard) Left here (and Conservative socially), as fits our political history.

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#144291: Oct 15th 2016 at 11:24:08 AM

@will.i.am video: That may be the best thing will.i.am's done in years.

i'm tired, my friend
storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#144292: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:01:56 PM

I talked to the guy who is campaigning for Trump near where I lived and asked him why he bothered and whether he seriously thought Trump could win California. He mentioned the rally in NH and said that Trump was doing great and would win in a landslide.

Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's Play
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#144293: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:17:42 PM

And Fivethirtyeight has Trump's chances in California at 0.1 percent or less. I don't think that guy is right.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#144294: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:22:29 PM

Crossposting from the tv thread- the villain of season 2 of Luke Cage should be based on this guy (for context, New York Republican candidate who was controversial for saying he'd attract black voters through fried chicken and Koolaid was arrested for crooked rent practices).

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#144295: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:30:53 PM

Trump is now accusing Clinton of using performance enhancing drugs during the debate, and wants the third debate to have a drug test.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/15/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-drug-test/index.html

This is coming from a guy who sniffles like he just did a few lines of coke...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#144296: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:33:21 PM

Seriously. This a debate not the olympics.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#144297: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:34:52 PM

The projection is strong in the Donald.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144298: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:37:40 PM

[up][up][up]This isn't the fucking Olympics! There's no medals or cash prizes handed out for "best debating". And if there are drugs out there that can increase intelligence, Trump has my express permission to use them as much as he wants! [nja]

edited 15th Oct '16 12:38:27 PM by nervmeister

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#144299: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:39:30 PM

How did it come to this?

edited 15th Oct '16 12:39:55 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#144300: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:42:18 PM

[up] White people being racist.

New Survey coming this weekend!

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