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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Here's a religious view on Trump and some of his supporters.
Comic, not article.
edited 15th Oct '16 8:31:30 AM by Discar
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.This piece is interesting
, no less for talking about European style welfare states as not being efficient bulwarks against right wing nationalism.
Also dispelling the myth of the angry poor white man Trumpist.
edited 15th Oct '16 8:33:16 AM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.Trump supporter behavior: Usually this just results in Southern Strategy denialism. Wasn't those two words what you used to get an instant ban from r/conservative?
EDIT: Brexit claims aren't the only thing Nigel Farage is backtracking on
. Now he's claiming that he and Trump don't see eye to eye on many things.
edited 15th Oct '16 8:38:17 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot![]()
The conclusion is that they're not poor, rural whites. They're actually above average in income and are knowingly voting to raise their own taxes (as middle class people) because they care less about their own personal financial well-being than they do about making sure the government keeps non-whites down.
Which is even more horrifying.
Edit: The article also says that we should probably be actually doing something about racism directly, rather than hoping that economic buffers will magically solve it.
edited 15th Oct '16 8:48:28 AM by Clarste
Non-whites, non-men. It's effectively the ultimate expression of both racism ('they're criminals coming to rob/kill/rape our wimmenz') with classic success entitlement narrative ('so what if he said that, he's rich and entitled to it').
It's basically the same forces catapulting the far right into focus in Europe. The idea that democracy only works if it gives you what you want, and only an ethnically homogenous culture is worthy.
And economics don't fix the problem.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.Self perceived poor whites.
Pointing this out because I don't think it matters at all whether these people are actually well off or not, let alone when only comparatively so. If they perceive themselves as worse off then that's all what matters. And if memory serves, they frequently do (incorrectly so).
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWhat gets me the most right now...yeah, the deplorables thing was accurate. Just not politically correct. Let's analyze Trump's campaign and style now:
Racism. Incitement to violence. Mocking the disabled. Refusing to publish tax returns. 'Blood coming out of her wherever'. More racism. Mocking prisoners of war. A clearly bogus medical report. Reacting to a terror attack with a tweet saying 'appreciate the congrats for being right'. Mocking women's personal appearance. Lies about 9/11. More racism. Lauding torture - not as a technique for getting information but as an end in itself. Threats to the free press. More incitement to violence. Baseless accusations about electoral fraud. Equivocating about white supremacist support. Speaking in favor of nuclear proliferation. Insinuations about the sitting President. Attacks on a Gold Star family. Bragging about sexual assault. And all of it larded with lie after lie after lie. Not just lies: great, big blatant lies, denying that he said or did things that are indisputably on the record.
All of this is easily sources and irrefutable.
Pointing this out because I don't think it matters at all whether these people are actually well off or not, let alone when only comparatively so. If they perceive themselves as worse off then that's all what matters. And if memory serves, they frequently do (incorrectly so).
No, that's the thing. According to the study cited by the article, pessimism about the economy and their own finances are actually associated with voting for Clinton, even among white people. The poorer they even think they are, the less likely they are to support Trump. Only racism and other isms are associated with favoring Trump.
You're simply restating the myth that the article set out to disprove.
edited 15th Oct '16 9:04:11 AM by Clarste
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I wonder if this is part of why the sex tapes have been such a nail in the coffin for Trump. It's less "He said mean things about women ten years ago" and more "Oh, Crap!, he's always been like this, it's not just an act he think will get votes!"
Washington Post on the rise and fall of Ken Bone
. Or, "how does something become a Discredited Meme?"
To think all of this could have been averted had he used a throwaway account.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotI will give Ken Bone credit for this, at least; he handled these revelations with a lot more class and grace than most people whose skeletons-in-closets get unearthed do. Especially since we have the case of Trump to compare him to.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)@Clarste: The article is interesting, mostly because not that long ago there was another article claiming the exact opposite, written by a man who lived in rural America, stating that things were nihilistically bad for them in those areas and that many of them had been suckered by Trump's rhetoric.
Of course, an article with actual data is easy to take more seriously than one that is essentially a prolonged anecdote, but the contrast between the two is interesting.
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Yeah, on one hand that's why people play it safe online, but on the other how he's reacted to what the spotlight taketh away shows a lot more integrity than Trump. Or the alt-right. I don't see the latter two ever admitting that an apology is in order, much less making a sincere one.
Well, that would explain the Letter from Nowhere
from an unaccredited distance learning college one of the newspapers I occasionally read got.
edited 15th Oct '16 9:23:32 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotTrump's latest evidence that the election is rigged? Hillary's not in jail
.
@IHE article: The elephant in the room (lol) with the situation described by the article is that it basically says that the right-wing went "I don't like these findings. Let's create our own scholarly group to validate our ideology".
As in, it was not motivated by a desire to legitimately fact-check an uncomfortable truth to them with a sincere desire to accept that they were possibly wrong, but by a desire to validate beliefs they already held. Or in other words, they had a premise to begin with and interpreted facts to fit with that premise, rather than the other way around, which is the worst thing you could in an intellectual inquiry.
edited 15th Oct '16 9:46:20 AM by Draghinazzo

I am pretty much sure those idiots wouldn't try to follow with their terrorist ploy if the political mood of the US didn't encourage such acts.
Similar to England suffering more attacks towards anyone remotely unbritish after the Brexit won.
As I said, calling them deplorables was Hillary being nice on Trump supporters.
edited 15th Oct '16 8:20:30 AM by AngelusNox
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