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YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#144126: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:42:37 PM

[up]This. Only now do they somehow realize he's not of Presidential character?

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#144127: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:42:53 PM

I suspect that the new strategy is also in part a sign of confidence about winning the White House and a desire to win the Senate. If they can tie Trump to the rest of the Republican Party the Dems should make good Senate and House gains.

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#144128: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:47:34 PM

[up] That's fairly explicit in the article. Democratic House and Senate candidates were expressing displeasure that they weren't allowed to link their opponents to Trump in campaign ads.

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#144129: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:51:08 PM

A weee bit late, I must say.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#144130: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:53:51 PM

Whenever I hear the "White Genocide" spiel it just leaves me wondering how people can so blatantly ignore what genocide entails.

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#144131: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:54:13 PM

Was the thread this heavily Democratic before this election cycle? I mean, it feels like a breath of fresh air seeing so many whose view more or less line up with mine so strongly, but part of me is afraid of falling into confirmation bias.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#144132: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:54:56 PM

Well, if the democrats do regain congress by some miracle, I can only hope they take Trump as the wake up call he should be. If it goes back to business as usual once this election is over, Trump will look benign compared to what's I suspect is coming.

[up] It's a slightly left of center centrist echo chamber. I also frequent right wing and left wing echo chambers to expose myself to a diverse range of political opinions. I have yet to find a good echo chamber for establishment conservatism, unfortunately.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:58:12 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#144133: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:55:16 PM

[up][up]

Was the thread this heavily Democratic before this election cycle?

This Thread has been strongly Democratic since it was started back in 2011.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:55:50 PM by Greenmantle

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144134: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:57:15 PM

Limbaugh is on the fringes of the alt-right. He doesn't traffic in the same kind of crazy "Martian zombies ate Obama's brain" conspiracies that Alex Jones and Breitbart do, but he has been instrumental in stirring the fires of the anti-fact, wildly liberal-hating right. In particular, he has been vehemently sexist in his attitudes and is a rape apologist.
So you're telling me that the left considers Rush Limbaugh to be the "Token Good Teammate" of the alt-right?

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#144135: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:57:44 PM

I'm just worried about moderate Republicans jumping ship back to the GOP.

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Oh, bother.
#144136: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:58:04 PM

[up]x7 They figured out, possibly too late, what a lot of people already realized. The GOP is pretty much beyond saving now.

[up] I have lost a lot of respect for the GOP this election cycle.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:59:08 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#144137: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:58:47 PM

[up][up][up]No, the token "saner than the the rest" teammate. He's not less sleazy than they are, but he is slightly more connected to reality. Slightly.

If anything he's worse than many of the crazier guys, if only in the sense that Alex Jones and his ilk sometimes come off as genuinely mentally ill. Rush is not sick. He's just a bastard. And unlike some of his compatriots—like Glenn Beck who seems to be belatedly realizing what a monster he's helped make—he shows no signs of stopping or even dialing it back.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:00:31 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#144138: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:00:08 PM

The only good thing to come from Rush Limbaugh were those Paul Shanklin song parodies (right wing as they were).

edited 14th Oct '16 1:04:10 PM by speedyboris

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#144139: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:00:19 PM

~Yami Vizzini X: Part of it is that we take a very strong stance against incivility and hate speech, such that folks holding extreme viewpoints tend to get banned or dissuaded. Part of it is that we demand intellectual rigor in argumentation, which locks out a lot of viewpoints that are not rational.

This leaves us with the famous "reality has a liberal bias" line as an explanation, but that is somewhat facile. Rather, it's that the Democratic Party, by and large, aligns its policy goals with practical ideas that have scientific reasoning behind them.

We also don't traffic in hard left ideology: some hardcore anarchists have gotten banned and we would not accept someone who strongly advocated for ecoterrorism or anti-vaccination either.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:01:10 PM by Fighteer

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#144140: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:05:32 PM

[up]Which is why I love this thread. I've noticed that a lot of Internet political forums are either hard-right, or if they're not they drift farther and farther left until they lose any sense of realism

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#144141: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:08:36 PM

This thread definitely feels more comfortable than any other I've seen when it comes to politics. Even then, we still do have a few Republicans or harder left people hanging around.

And I don't think it's an echo chamber really. People have gotten into disagreements and debates fairly often. It's just that this election has everyone in the same boat.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#144142: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:09:12 PM

Limbaugh is only "saner by comparison" because he's been around since the 90s and used to be the rightmost edge of mainstream hard right. He didn't get better, but a lot of people got a whole lot worse.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:11:06 PM by Elle

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#144143: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:11:26 PM

Regarding Limbaugh, as I said before, it's not that he's significantly less odious than others on the right; saying that is sort of like comparing a tray of meat that's been left out for two weeks with one that's only been left out for ten days. Rush is a terrible, terrible human being who deserves all the scorn heaped on him.

Rather, he's simply not willing to go as far as the Breitbart/Jones crowd in declaring everything to be alien Nazi conspiracies. He bears a lot of the blame for them, though, as he's one of the original talk radio jockeys who built his audience by pushing the Republican establishment towards the frothing, no-compromise extremes that it now occupies. He lit the fire, he placed the stink bombs that drove reasonable Republicans out of the mainstream of their party, and thus helped create the vacuum that the alt-right has now stepped into.

He has been instrumental in pushing the GOP towards its most extreme elements. That he is no longer the most extreme thing out there is not to his credit.

[down] We try to leave room for debate, even if we believe the conclusion to be foregone. It's healthy. We can't shut out all contradictory viewpoints; that would create an echo chamber.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:13:26 PM by Fighteer

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#144144: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:12:39 PM

I do feel that certain people get away with things that more right-leaning people wouldn't but for the most part it doesn't come off as an echo-chamber to me.

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#144145: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:15:36 PM

Besides, there are plenty of Tropers who aren't from the US and don't subscribe to the same ideologies from the US right wing.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#144146: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:18:18 PM

@smokey: People get into disagreements all the time in echo chambers within the accepted range of discourse. "Shall we gas the n*****s or the k**es first" to use an extreme example. The better sort of echo chamber doesn't outright ban polite dissenters, just treats them like a leper to varying degrees, and that's how I class this place. I don't feel comfortable here, and that's the point; the bulk of one's time discussing politics should be done with people you disagree with, in my opinion.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:26:12 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#144147: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:19:50 PM

I have to confess I'm not overtly familiar with him, but I get the impression Limbaugh has also done immense damage to the conversation about gender issues, perpetuating the stereotype that feminists are ugly, obese women who are just bitter that society is rightfully ignoring them (a caricature still unabashedly used by many mysogynists of varying political opinions), and is also responsible for popularizing the word "feminazi".

I believe he has made a few surprisingly sensible and honest statements lately, like saying that voting for Clinton was a much more ethical choice over Trump, but he has a lot to answer for still.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:21:21 PM by Draghinazzo

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#144148: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:23:54 PM

Limbaugh said that Clinton is better than Trump? My stars and garters, I do believe I shall faint.

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#144149: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:24:49 PM

It was either him or Glenn Beck. I'm afraid that I don't remember, it was posted in here a while back I believe.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144150: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:24:59 PM

[up][up][up][up]Well I do wonder what it would be like to achieve such uniqueness in worldview that just about everyone of every stripe wants to see you swept under the rug, committed, or worse, yet you feel so blissfully affirmed in it, you don't care one way or the other what people think of you.

edited 14th Oct '16 1:26:34 PM by nervmeister


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