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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#144101: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:01:23 AM

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone in real life who so perfectly embodied the Never My Fault trope.

Disgusted, but not surprised
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#144102: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:09:08 AM

Omg they're irl Lannisters.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#144103: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:12:16 AM

Apparently, Trump will be speaking soon. I believe Pence said earlier this morning that Trump would release evidence that would prove the sexual assault accusation against him false sometime today.

I'm...interested to see what this evidence might be...

Oh God! Natural light!
Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
Keep Hope Alive
#144104: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:15:40 AM

[up][up] With the possible exception of Trump's daughters, the Lannisters are much smarter, more competent, and more attractive than the Trump family.

Stand Fast, Stand Strong, Stand Together
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#144105: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:20:33 AM

Frey's, then

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#144106: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:23:46 AM

[up]Certainly as unlikable as them.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144107: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:23:54 AM

@M84

To be fair though, if the page of the trope you just cited is to be believed, it does fit in rather well with modern political climate:

A lot of politics can be seen like this, depending on how cynical you are. Politics is, in a lot of ways, a popularity contest. If you plan on moving up the political ladder, you need to try and keep something of a clean record. When a large political blunder occurs (like the debt crisis) there tends to be a lot of shuffling blame to avoid being the ones with egg on their faces when it's time for re-election season.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#144109: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:32:51 AM

Donald Trump and the Breitbart election

Breitbart is a disgusting website. Go see it for yourself. But sadly, it represents a certain movement that's growing...

But even some conservatives who are critical of the media at large say outlets like Breitbart have taken the perception of liberal media bias and driven it overboard, to the point where their readers are simply unwilling to accept basic facts if they don't comport with their worldview.

"There was this effort to respond to media bias, both real and perceived, that meant discrediting mainstream journalistic institutions, but it's got to the point where people don't trust anything," one Fox News source said. "It's mind-blowing. You can play an unedited video for two minutes that includes Trump contradicting all of these things to make your point —- and they insist that the video is doctored. It's really extraordinary."

"In the regular conservative movement, Breitbart is a laughing stock," said Shapiro. "It's all spin. It's a propaganda outfit."

Nothing fuels the Breitbart contingent more than the sense that the mainstream media is working with Democrats, American corporations and a feckless Republican establishment to undermine the American middle class in order to benefit a globalist establishment.

If Trump loses badly and takes down many Republicans with him, could this harm the movement? Or make them extremize more and get further entrenched - and further alienate would-be supporters in the process?

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144110: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:47:42 AM

[up]Well, one thing about Breitbart I find "disgusting" is their use of giant titles in all caps. I'm not blind. I can read just fine.

Otherwise, I'm totally cool with fetal tissue being put up for sale.

edited 14th Oct '16 11:54:16 AM by nervmeister

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#144111: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:52:03 AM

[up]You find it disgusting that they do the same thing that youtube personalities do?

i'm tired, my friend
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#144112: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:53:01 AM

[up][up][up]I suspect the latter will at least retain the publicity.

Full disclosure I don't have firsthand experience with Breibart, but the way it's being brandied about would it be analogous to the Daily Mail?

edited 14th Oct '16 11:53:14 AM by megarockman

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#144113: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:55:30 AM

I think it's actually worse than the Mail, at least the Mail withdrew its support for Hiter.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144114: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:55:42 AM

[up][up][up]Okay now. Sargon (for the most part) isn't nearly as attention-whoring as Breitbart when it comes to titles.

edited 14th Oct '16 11:56:15 AM by nervmeister

chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#144115: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:58:27 AM

Yes it would be the case. I do have experience with that site. Just for a year. They make fox news seems fair and balance.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#144116: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:00:18 PM

Welp, a former The Apprentice contestant has just given a press release on Trump sexually harassing her when she was trying to get hired by him. This apparently interrupted the live coverage of Trump's latest rally.

[down]His only competitor at this point is Bill Cosby.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:04:04 PM by AceofSpades

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144117: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:01:24 PM

[up][up]Sounds about right, if my initial impressions are anything to go by.

[up]Should somebody get Guinness World Records on the line?

edited 14th Oct '16 12:02:52 PM by nervmeister

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#144118: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:10:23 PM

[up][up][up][up] He may not be attention-whoring, but he's really gone off the deep end this year.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144119: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:12:44 PM

[up]As much as I like the guy, his main problem is that he falters in keeping a healthy amount of emotional distance so that he can better approach the issues objectively.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:41:28 PM by nervmeister

Cid El Cid Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
El Cid
#144120: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:14:23 PM

I've only read one Breitbart article, it was about the Mexican Electoral System, and though it had its facts mostly right, the tone of the writer left much to be desired. I mean, it wasn't that bad until I got to the end and I saw this gem:

Liberals who oppose these common-sense ideas want the system to remain open to fraud.

There is no other explanation.

... Then I got to the comments section. I wish I hadn't. sad

Either way, for the people in Breitbart the facts only matter if they can use it to "prove" one of their conspiracy theories. It's sad, really.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#144121: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:22:39 PM

Clinton and Obama have decided to drop their previous campaign strategy of separating Republicans in general from Donald Trump. The strategy was originally designed to appeal to moderate Republicans who don't want to be associated with the Donald. Now, however, it has become clear (so they say) that the GOP is not only enabling Trump, but acted with abject moral cowardice in supporting him to begin with, never mind continuing to do so.

"[T]he problem is not that all Republicans think the way this guy does. The problem is, is that they’ve been riding this tiger for a long time. They’ve been feeding their base all kinds of crazy for years, primarily for political expedience. So if Trump was running around saying I wasn’t born here, they were okay with that as long as it helped them with votes. If some of these folks on talk radio started talking about how I was the anti-Christ, you know, it’s just politics. You think I’m joking. [...]

“And that’s what’s happened in their party. All that bile, all the exaggeration, all the stuff that was not grounded in fact just kind of bubbled up, started surfacing. They know better, a lot of these folks who ran, and they didn’t say anything. And so they don’t get credit for, at the very last minute, when finally the guy that they nominated and they endorsed and they supported is caught on tape saying things that no decent person would even think, much less say, much less brag about, much less laugh about or joke about, much less act on, you can’t wait until that finally happens and then say, ‘Oh, that’s too much, that’s enough.’ And think that somehow you are showing any kind of leadership and deserve to be elected to the United States Senate.

“You don’t get points for that. In fact, I’m more forgiving of the people who actually believe it than the people who know better and stood silently by, out of political expediency, because it was politically convenient.”

Go get 'em, tiger. And, respectfully, to Hell with anyone who tries to argue that "they're both just as bad".

edited 14th Oct '16 12:24:32 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#144122: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:23:36 PM

Breibart runs deep with sensationalism, conspiracy theories and their compromise with facts only lasts if it suits their beliefs.

There isn't much journalism there besides gathering the hate and attention from reactionaries and racists, they try to pass themselves as serious journalismTM on the surface but once you read further into their articles you can see the bile and the hateful messages they unsubtly leave on their articles.

These are the guys who will tell you with a straight face that BLM is a terrorist organization, imply it is the Jews who're behind EVERYTHING and how liberals are the cause of all problems in modern society, how PC is a code of white genocide, on and on.

Inter arma enim silent leges
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#144123: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:27:21 PM

These are the guys who will tell you with a straight face that BLM is a terrorist organization, imply it is the Jews who're behind EVERYTHING and how liberals are the cause of all problems in modern society, how PC is a code of white genocide, on and on.

Sounds like a digital form of Rush Limbaugh's persona.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#144124: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:36:59 PM

Limbaugh is on the fringes of the alt-right. He doesn't traffic in the same kind of crazy "Martian zombies ate Obama's brain" conspiracies that Alex Jones and Breitbart do, but he has been instrumental in stirring the fires of the anti-fact, wildly liberal-hating right. In particular, he has been vehemently sexist in his attitudes and is a rape apologist.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:37:34 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#144125: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:38:11 PM

Also, it comes across as really self-serving and disingenuous to me especially because trump's misogyny is nothing new or shocking. Not that the comments from the tape aren't horrible, but if you do even the most superficial research into his history, or if you were following him in this election cycle, the contempt he has for women as individuals is extremely transparent.

This is a man that was accused of raping his wife, repeatedly insults any woman who criticizes him by calling them ugly or crazy, considers the basic bodily functions of women "disgusting", repeatedly insists that women are self-serving harpies who only care about men's money and status, and only ever considers their value in terms of their appearance or their status as trophies.

You'd have to be pretty clueless or ignorant of history not to see that this was a man who most certainly didn't respect women. The comments he made may be slightly more overt and gross than the stuff he usually says, but it's not exactly a big surprise that he would say things like that since it's just an extension of the ideas he's espoused for decades. Then again, that some people refuse to see "isms" unless the people involved are extremely explicit in their behaviors is a well-established fact so this isn't super surprising.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:41:41 PM by Draghinazzo


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