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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Lost in Space
The Washington Post endorses Hillary Clinton for President of the United States
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No protest movement in history has ever been able to completely reign in fringe whackjobs from undermining their cause. And in the current situation where we get riots and cop killings, reason frankly stopped mattering a while ago to the people starting them because life has been shit for them for so long...anger leads to fear, leads to hate, leads to suffering. That's not something you can lay on BLM's shoulders.
edited 13th Oct '16 9:54:21 AM by Elle
I know I used to watch Sargon's videos about a year ago largely to help me cope with some of the crazies in my classes up here at college. Despite being a jerk, he does have a point about the cult-mentality of it. I've seen it myself; I've lived through it. They scream at people for having different opinions, and shut down anyone who tries countering it. They're the singlemost narrow-minded people I've ever had the displeasure of personally meeting in fact. It. Is. Insufferable. He provided an outlet for those frustrations, which was the entirety of the reason I watched.
I do recall stopping after his Islam episode. That one pissed me off and did come off as genuinely Islamophobic to me, and I didn't feel like I could keep watching him in good conscious.
You don't know what we've been through...
edited 13th Oct '16 9:59:42 AM by randomdude4
"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -BurI think one reason I'm not a Trump supporter now is because my first impression of the man was from the portrayal of him in Bloom County, where he was basically an ungrateful Jerkass who destroys everything around him for profit.
edited 13th Oct '16 9:57:35 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedWhile cultivating a cult mentality of his own. Pot, kettle, black.
And really, you think you're alone? That you and internet neo-Nazis are the only people who have encountered insufferable types at college, if you actually attended one that wasn't a diploma mill? Please, you know nothing of South East Asian anti-imperialists...
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It's also easy to complain about people's behavior when you aren't the one who might be killed by a police officer the next day.
Some people seem to be under the illusion that stuff like this can be solved by asking nicely, but that's never how these social issues work. Protests by definition are messy, disruptive, and uncomfortable but there's no other way really.
edited 13th Oct '16 10:03:42 AM by Draghinazzo
@Krieger the insinuation that you make by grouping me with neo-nazis in that sentence is incredibly insulting. Don't be an asshole dude. And I'm pretty sure University of Washington isn't a diploma mill, so I'm dammned sure I know what I'm fucking talking about.
Of course they're messy. They've never been easy, but there's also a difference between protesting and becoming a mob. Too often that's what they become now.
Care to fucking elaborate what you mean by my "ilk?"
edited 13th Oct '16 10:13:11 AM by randomdude4
"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
Well, guess who digs Sargon too
. Since your ilk claims to despise political correctness so much, I will indulge you.
In which Fox News host Bill Hemmer loses it at the very insinuation of white privilege
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Re: "cultish" liberalism: It is a thing around liberal leaning college campuses but I believe it's absurd aspects are more amplified there than they are elsewhere. I've seen it too, but as I've gotten older and delt more with the real world I've come to realize they have some points, if often badly argued and too hostile to people that don't get it.
edited 13th Oct '16 10:09:59 AM by Elle
If it stays restricted to a bunch of yelling, I have a very hard time calling a college protest a mob. Frankly I find that these things that happen at college tend to get overblown in the news. Oh no, kids are getting politically active. Oh no, they are perhaps doing it in a stupid way. Oh no, people are getting upset because they're being disagreed with, on multiple sides of whatever argument it is.
Most people, once they get to protest stage, are quite goddamned tired of being shut down themselves.
This sounds like a twist of some feminists who support all-female rallies and movements. Feminist physical violence is largely a myth - not female violence, feminist violence.
As Benoîte Groult put it:Le féminisme n'a jamais tué personne. Le machisme tue tous les jours (Feminism has never killed anyone, machismo kills every day)
One of the basic points in your statement is that the action that I and my associates have taken in Birmingham is untimely. Some have asked: "Why didn't you give the new city administration time to act?" The only answer that I can give to this query is that the new Birmingham administration must be prodded about as much as the outgoing one, before it will act. We are sadly mistaken if we feel that the election of Albert Boutwell as mayor will bring the millennium to Birmingham. While Mr. Boutwell is a much more gentle person than Mr. Connor, they are both segregationists, dedicated to maintenance of the status quo. I have hope that Mr. Boutwell will be reasonable enough to see the futility of massive resistance to desegregation. But he will not see this without pressure from devotees of civil rights. My friends, I must say to you that we have not made a single gain in civil rights without determined legal and nonviolent pressure. Lamentably, it is an historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals.
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Need a safe space? One where you "PC and wimminz who don't want to sleep with me are ruining America" types can talk without getting counterpoints brought up?
edited 13th Oct '16 10:14:56 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiotedited 13th Oct '16 10:20:59 AM by randomdude4
"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
