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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143526: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:41:09 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]How awkward would it be if he tried to promote himself to young black voters with the hashtag #UncleTrumpsPenthouse?

edited 12th Oct '16 11:42:05 AM by nervmeister

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#143527: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:44:03 AM

[up][up]Yeah, this was gonna happen sooner or later.

Oh really when?
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143528: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:46:33 AM

[up]As long as people are still talking and not hanging up on each other, there's not too much to freak out about.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#143529: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:47:33 AM

So, I guess we've learned that the LA Times couldn't pass Introductory Statistics (in their defense, that course was a bastard).

edited 12th Oct '16 11:47:45 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#143530: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:52:02 AM

@the one black guy: That is impressively bad polling. I'm struggling to come up with a metaphor to describe how badly setup that is.

@russian relations: eh, the proxy wars and point scoring is a bit more open then it used to be but things haven't changed all that much. I'd expect more tough talk and cyber warfare but things ain't going to go hot. Even putin isn't looking to end the world.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#143531: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:54:40 AM

I was thinking about how Trump acts like a cartoon caricature of an evil rich guy. It's incredible.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143532: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:00:51 PM

[up]He's not evil. He's big-boned amoral.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:01:06 PM by nervmeister

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#143533: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:07:12 PM

[up] "Evil" as a distinct concept is not possible to objectively apply to real people. However, Trump is as close an approximation as is possible given the limits of our semantics. "Amoral" is too slippery of a term; it fails to capture the visceral reality of what he says and does. Also, insert mandatory "Evil people don't believe themselves to be evil" speech.

Rudy Giuliani, continuing his recent career of lying in ways that are hilariously disprovable, insists that Hillary Clinton "wasn’t actually at Ground Zero on the day the World Trade Center buildings came down." As it turns out, she was not physically in New York that day (I guess she knew it was coming and arranged to be traveling?), but traveled to the Capitol as soon as she could to stand in vigil, and was in New York the very next day, standing next to Giuliani for a public photo. I think that he is on some pretty powerful drugs, or has early onset Alzheimers, or something.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:08:44 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143534: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:13:58 PM

As it turns out, she was not physically in New York that day (I guess she knew it was coming and arranged to be traveling?)
Then technically Rudy was right. But he's implying that alone is enough to prove she's some kind of callous monster.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:14:35 PM by nervmeister

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#143535: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:15:14 PM

In order to win, Trump needs to stage a comeback so massive that it would be unprecedented in presidential elections.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-there-any-precedent-for-a-trump-comeback/?ex_cid=538fb

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#143536: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:18:02 PM

Not to take on the role of the paranoid here, but Trump even getting this far was thought of as unprecedented. Not that I think he'll make a comeback, but it's something to keep in mind.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143537: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:20:39 PM

[up][up]If by "stage a comeback", you mean believably stage his own death followed by him coming back from the dead, like Jesus, then.............he may fall a bit short.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:21:09 PM by nervmeister

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#143538: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:21:10 PM

Given the shrinking ranks of undecided voters, it would take a catastrophic failure on the Democratic side to lose the election now.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#143539: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:26:24 PM

Wikileaks, meanwhile, seems to be in a panic mode and is throwing things out with misleading headlines.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#143540: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:29:55 PM

[up][up] Or a well run voter intimidation/discouragement scheme in crucial states. For the former, Trump can leverage his ardent supporter David Duke, for the latter, his portly lapdog Chris Christie.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143541: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:31:34 PM

Do you think it's likely that Trump will be able to pull such a thing off?

Oh God! Natural light!
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#143542: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:32:33 PM

Not going to happen. Trump's ground game is all but nonexistent, and shows no signs of improving. He has no systematic "get out the vote" operation, unlike the Democrats, and seems to be relying mainly on rallies to motivate people. That has a very poor track record. If anything, his turnout stands to be lower than predicted.

The idea that voter suppression could occur on a large enough scale to sway the election becomes increasingly improbable as Clinton's margins widen. If there were a one percent difference, I'd buy it, but not with the current spread. Significantly, the most ardent suppression efforts will occur in states that already lean red or are solid red, so they make no electoral difference whatsoever.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:32:41 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#143543: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:32:36 PM

Some people may be interested in this. Apparently an "Alt-Right Wikipedia" fork.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#143544: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:33:08 PM

It'll be really hard for Trump to stage a comeback if he continues to accidentally tell supporters to vote on the wrong date. He corrected himself later, but this is the first time I've started giving credence to the "Trump is trying to sabotage himself" idea.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#143545: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:40:05 PM

@Fighteer: I hope you're right, though there are plenty of blue leaning states with large rural conservative populations. Ohio and Pennsylvania being two such states.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#143546: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:40:46 PM

To channel the captain: it ain't over till it's over. Historical precedent isn't very useful in this election due to it being so gorram weird.

I'm still cautiously optimistic. Trump needs to get out the middle class white woman vote and he is absolutely not getting that. He seems to think he can trump that by calling upon the giant mountain of uneducated whites who never vote but, surprising as it sounds, they don't tend to vote. Outside of clinton being charged with a criminal offense I'd say this is in the bag.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#143547: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:45:43 PM

[up][up] Just because there are a lot of dumb hicks (I'm sorry, "less-educated rural voters") in Ohio and Pennsylvania doesn't mean they can march into Philadelphia or Pittsburgh and overwhelm the Democratic vote there. Unless we see in-person voter fraud by Republicans on an unimaginable scale, or brown shirts assaulting minorities at urban polling stations while police stand by and do nothing, it's not going to have enough of an effect.

I'm not calling it for Clinton yet, but all signs point that way. My greater concern is what Trump and his supporters will do after the election — those that don't try voting on November 28th, anyway.

#143533: I've been reading that talk page and it is hilarious. Breitbart wants its own Wikipedia fork where it can allow people to believe in whatever reality suits them. I'm sure that'll work so well.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:48:54 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#143548: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:48:36 PM

Yes, but what happens after she's elected? The GOP will hold the house, and will most likely win back the senate in the midterms if they even lose it, the democrats simply can't hope for a margin of. victory big enough for onovercome the typical midterm losses in congress, which means the GOP will likely hold both chambers of congress until the end of her presidency. Meaning four more years of obstruction, and an even more radicalized base. Especially if another economic crisis occurs an partisanship prevents an appropriate government response.

edited 12th Oct '16 12:51:00 PM by CaptainCapsase

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#143549: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:51:15 PM

Good question. Democrats are eyeing the House, which could be in play if the margin of victory in the national vote reaches 10 points or more. Meanwhile, the Senate is in serious contention. The most likely case is for Clinton to come into office with a Democratic Senate and Republican House. This would result in gridlock, but not total immobility as the Senate would be able to confirm Clinton's appointments.

(As an aside, a CNN article holds forth the idea that Trump's flap with Ryan might create the weird situation in which a Republican House of Representatives elects a Democratic Speaker due to defections from the GOP side.)

edited 12th Oct '16 12:52:41 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#143550: Oct 12th 2016 at 12:52:00 PM

At worst? 4 more years of obstructionism which is still leagues better then 4 years of trump.

I'm not sure how supreme court picks work but if the senate is tied and the VP gets the split doesn't that mean clinton could ram through some younger justices before the mid-terms? The notorious RBG's continued life is a mystery of modern science and I'm sure she would really like to retire.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?

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