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chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#143401: Oct 11th 2016 at 8:53:30 PM

[up][up]Yes. I had a similar worry. But if you voted or register to vote in the primaries you can also vote in the general election.

edited 11th Oct '16 8:54:18 PM by chartoc

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143402: Oct 11th 2016 at 8:55:01 PM

I should be fine, then.

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#143404: Oct 11th 2016 at 9:35:06 PM

[up] You left off a few digits on the Democrats' number.

For all that Trump's supporters are astonishingly vocal on social media and in the general public sphere, there has been some significant concern about how many will actually turn out to vote.

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#143405: Oct 11th 2016 at 9:41:03 PM

Yeah, one thing I've seen brought up is how many of the online Trump supporters are actually old enough to vote. It's really easy to sucker a 13 year old into a cause, for at least a little while, but their support is worse than useless because it really skews the perception.

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#143406: Oct 11th 2016 at 9:58:46 PM

I would've figured most Trump supporters to be in their early 20s to late 50s.

i'm tired, my friend
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143408: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:06:03 PM

Yeah, I officially hate American men now.

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Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
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#143409: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:12:47 PM

Well, we're not all bad.

Will Smith is pretty cool.

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#143410: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:14:25 PM

[up][up] Personally I'm more disappointed at the lack of education and toxic culture that created this situation.

People are still responsible for themselves but at the same time we're all products of our environment.

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#143411: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:47:04 PM

Gee, no wonder the Trumptards in reddit and 4chan are all yapping about letting women and minorities vote being a mistake.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143412: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:52:06 PM

Look, I hate 'em as much as the next guy, but let's not call them that. We don't need to call anybody "retarded" or some variation thereof to make our points against them.

They are, however, shitstains.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143413: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:55:01 PM

[up]I agree.

There are a lot of problems with how we handle things like mental health here in America.

It pisses me off at how much toxic masculinity hurts men. But no, I'm the sexist because I don't want to vote for Trump.

Rant mode: NOT ALL MEN ARE LIKE THIS! STOP TRYING TO THROW YOUR WHOLE GENDER UNDER THE BUS TO MAKE YOUR ASS LOL BETTER!

Even at my most cynical, I never thought that all men talk like this in locker rooms or any other typically male environment.

I think the people who do think that all men are like this secretly want it to be true because then they could do whatever they want. They want to normalize it to justify their own choices and avoid responsibility.

I don't hate American men. Or women. What I hate is when people who hurt others and shirk responsibility for such choices.

But I have to take responsibility for what I do, too. I ain't no saint. I have to make sure what I do and say actually matches what I feel.

edited 11th Oct '16 10:58:15 PM by BearyScary

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#143414: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:56:12 PM

i've heard way too many crass jokes about women's rights like up to a decade before this election started, don't want to imagine the kind of stuff happening in 4chan and other communities like it right now.

Even at my most cynical, I never thought that all men talk like this in locker rooms or any other typically male environment.

I think what a lot of misguided people speaking on Trump's commentsnote are trying to say is that lustful feelings are a natural part of being a man (unless you're asexual, I suppose), and are not necessarily destructive or wrong. I think that on some level talking about those desires with other men is something that will naturally happen, and while it can often and very easily steer into misogyny and objectification it doesn't necessarily have to.

Even under that lens though it's impossible to defend Trump because his comments go way overboard into rape apologia and thinking he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants, without any regard for women's consent, entirely because he's THE DONALD. There's a fine line between "YO THAT GIRL WAS FINE DAAAAWG" and "GRAB THEM BY THE PUSSY".

edited 11th Oct '16 11:08:51 PM by Draghinazzo

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#143416: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:07:49 PM

[up][up]Exactly. I've heard locker talk all my life, and I've heard some crass shit.

But I've never heard a guy talk about straight up sexually assaulting someone.

If middle school and high school boys are acting more mature then you, you're doing something wrong.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:10:22 PM by Mr.Didact

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143417: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:14:57 PM

[up][up][up]I agree.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:15:26 PM by BearyScary

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NeoTerraKnight Since: Apr, 2014
#143418: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:18:33 PM

So guys, November 28 is the same date as the Trump University case... Hm, slip of tongue?

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/06/news/donald-trump-university-trial/

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#143419: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:20:42 PM

[up][up][up] One thing that some people like Trevor Noah on the Daily Show brought up is that Donald and Billy weren't in a locker room when they said that horrible crap.

Trevor Noah also pointed out the difference between saying crude stuff and outright predatory illegal stuff.

Also, it is incredibly disturbing how they were making predatory and lewd remarks one moment and seconds later acted all nice and friendly to Arianne Zucker, and Billy Bush even cajoled her into giving a hug to Donald.

Yuck.

[up] Speaks volumes about what is really worrying him.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:33:18 PM by M84

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#143420: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:28:50 PM

Rant mode: NOT ALL MEN ARE LIKE THIS! STOP TRYING TO THROW YOUR WHOLE GENDER UNDER THE BUS TO MAKE YOUR ASS LOL BETTER!

...Just to be clear, are you referring to my earlier post?

Because I wasn't really being serious. I suppose I should have made that clear, and maybe it wasn't the most sensitive joke. But I assure you, I don't hate my own gender.

...Of course, if that wasn't in response to me, then feel free to ignore this, and I apologize for my self-centeredness here.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:30:33 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143421: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:31:54 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure that was concerning Donald's Lame Excuse. One that, infuriatingly enough, his supporters are also using to justify his behavior.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143422: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:34:40 PM

@Karkat: No, it was not directed at you. It was directed at the Lame Excuse in general. Sorry for the confusion.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143423: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:43:18 PM

Oh, it's fine. Again, I apologize for making it about me. I just tend to worry that I'll say something wrong, so I guess I panic a little too easily in that regard.

Anyway, I wonder if Clinton might benefit from bringing up Trump University (if she hasn't already?).

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143424: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:52:22 PM

[up] Honestly, I think it would be better for Clinton to let him bury himself while she focuses on delivering a positive message. More "why you should vote for me" and less "why you should not vote for Donald".

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143425: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:53:44 PM

Yes, that's probably a good idea.

Any idea what we can expect in the next week until the last debate?

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