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A procrastination in of itself
#143251: Oct 11th 2016 at 10:54:37 AM

I think we can criticize rape culture and societal attitudes towards sexual assault without condemning the wives (and parents and children and siblings) who don't believe that their loved one is guilty of it

I'd add that while this makes sense in cases like the Clinton one (where the accuser is unknown to the family/friends of the accused) the leeway is not something that should be given in cases where people are close to both the alleged perpetrator and the victim.

While going "I've no idea what happened, I'm so confused, both these people are lovely but evidence suggests that they can't both be, my head hurts" makes sense (unless one is going head in sand to ignore obvious evidence) I have trouble being understanding of thouse who are close to both involved parties carrying out any actions to try and get dirt on an accuser, or even an acussed.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:06:58 AM by Silasw

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143252: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:02:46 AM

[up]x10 Let's just say if you ever have to choose between eating at a Trump restaurant and a fast food joint, you're better off with the fast food.

Disgusted, but not surprised
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#143253: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:13:02 AM

The Sad, Lonley Life of Donald J. Trump

Politics is an effort to make human connection, but Trump seems incapable of that. He is essentially adviser-less, friendless. His campaign team is made up of cold mercenaries at best and Roger Ailes at worst. His party treats him as a stench it can’t yet remove.

He was a germophobe through most of his life and cut off contact with others, and now I just picture him alone in the middle of the night, tweeting out hatred.

Trump breaks his own world record for being appalling on a weekly basis, but as the campaign sinks to new low after new low, I find myself experiencing feelings of deep sadness and pity.

Imagine if you had to go through a single day without sharing kind little moments with strangers and friends.

Imagine if you had to endure a single week in a hate-filled world, crowded with enemies of your own making, the object of disgust and derision.

You would be a twisted, tortured shrivel, too, and maybe you’d lash out and try to take cruel revenge on the universe. For Trump this is his whole life.

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Lost in Space
#143254: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:14:15 AM

[up] Boo, hoo. He could always withdraw his candidacy and start trying to repair the damage his life has caused.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#143255: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:15:07 AM

I have a bit of trouble sympathizing with him. From all accounts he was an insufferable asshole even before he became famous and politically active.

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i'm tired, my friend
#143256: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:19:16 AM

Imagine if you had to endure a single week in a hate-filled world, crowded with enemies of your own making

The writer's trying to make me feel for Trump's situation white admitting it's his own fault in the same sentence.

i'm tired, my friend
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#143257: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:26:46 AM

Trump Jr: "So this is how Hitler must have felt"

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143258: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:27:34 AM

I'm not sure if that article's meant to evoke sympathy for him. Pity, maybe - to me, it kind of feels like it's outlining the defeat of a rather pathetic villain.

In any case, I've been seeing a lot of talk of Trump creating his own media network out of all of this.

It may be Fox News, but there's some sanity here.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#143259: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:29:27 AM

Shep Smith has always been the Only Sane Man at Fox. Kelly has recently joined his ranks as the Distaff Counterpart in the prime time side, but no surprise that Smith is saying that.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:29:57 AM by FFShinra

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143260: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:40:24 AM

Maybe Trump can still win the Presidency if he subtly promotes Jill Stein.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#143261: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:41:48 AM

I would rather have Trump shove nails in my eyes than see that happen.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143262: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:45:02 AM

[up] [lol] Mmmm. Your exquisite taste for pain aside, Trump does seem impulsive enough to try it in a last ditch effort (the Jill Stein thing; not the eye surgery).

edited 11th Oct '16 11:49:52 AM by nervmeister

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#143263: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:52:06 AM

Source for the the Trump spokesperson admitting he started his campaign as revenge against Obama? I could totally buy it but I'd like to see something concrete first.

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#143264: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:09:05 PM

He has five kids and a giant tower with his name engraved on it. He goes to bed at night on top of a giant pile of money in a three-story penthouse with his supermodel wife. I don't think his life is as tragic and pitiable as that writer is trying to suggest.

edited 11th Oct '16 12:11:06 PM by TobiasDrake

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143265: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:10:41 PM

He has five kids and a giant tower with his name engraved on it. He goes to bed at night on top of a giant pile of money in a three-story penthouse with his supermodel wife. I don't think his life is as tragic and pitiable as that writer is trying to suggest.
Are you serious about the part in bold?

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#143266: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:12:27 PM

No, that part's a turn of phrase. It's something I used to hear a lot back in the 90's.

  • "How do you sleep at night?!"
  • "On top of a giant pile of money with X supermodels. grin"

The point is, I'll feel sorry for Trump just as soon as he stops screwing everyone. He can start by paying taxes and ceasing his efforts to shift the financial burden of the United States onto me and mine.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#143267: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:21:10 PM

Trump is in one of the best positions to help people, but instead he focuses on himself.

He could run a charity that helps people in need, rather than taking the money to buy a painting of himself.

He could donate to other charities, help people pay for college, help fund the building of homes for people who need them, give jobs to the homeless, and a million other things.

Instead, he chooses to screw over everyone who's poor, not pay people who do work for him, spread lies and bigotry, and attempt to bar all Muslims from entering the country.

I'll feel sympathy for him when he deserves it.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#143269: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:23:37 PM

[up][up] When he's dead? Then again, probably not even then.

edited 11th Oct '16 12:23:57 PM by Greenmantle

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#143270: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:26:46 PM

I'd feel sympathy for Donald Trump if he wasn't Donald Trump. Which I guess means I'll never feel sympathy for him. Funny how that worked out.tongue

edited 11th Oct '16 12:26:55 PM by kkhohoho

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#143271: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:28:43 PM

Trump is a human being that deserves...........**beat**..............not to be dehumanized at least.

edited 11th Oct '16 12:32:43 PM by nervmeister

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143272: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:32:55 PM

I'm willing to feel pity, which - and I think this is an important distinction - isn't quite the same thing as sympathy.

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#143273: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:39:08 PM

We should avoid outright dehumanizing Trump, if only to recognize that he represents many of America's worst impulses writ large that anyone is capable of. But I'm not really ready to feel sorry for him until he loses the election for real, and even then...

edited 11th Oct '16 12:39:42 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143274: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:42:17 PM

I'm still very curious about what exactly Trump supporters will do, should Trump lose the election. He's started saying that it'll be rigged again, so that makes me wonder what they'll think if Clinton does win (a prospect that grows more likely with each passing day).

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#143275: Oct 11th 2016 at 12:42:25 PM

It's not necessarily the fact that Trump doesn't actively go out and use his position to help people that bothers me so much as that he seems to actively make peoples' lives worse in many ways.

Trump could easily just enjoy coasting life with his inherited money, or do business ventures while not treating his employees and everyone around him like utter dogshit. Instead he acts like a complete asshat with the maturity of a 13 year old, having no respect for anyone or anything except himself, and actively contributing to racial and gender anxieties which have a tangible effect on the US's minorities.

If you're gonna not be part of the solution at least try not to contribute to the problem.


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