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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#143126: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:01:35 PM

[up][up]Elon Musk, for one, is in. EDIT: Oh, and Mark Zuckerberg.

edited 10th Oct '16 5:04:23 PM by BestOf

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#143127: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:19:10 PM

Ok, so that stuff that was going around about Mark Burnett supporting Trump and threatening suits on people who leak Apprentice footage is probably false. It actually just is contract restrictions and Burnett's politics are a bit hard to pin down; he's funded a lot of conservitive Christian films but donates mostly to center-left Democrats. He's not supported nor denounced either Clinton or Trump's campaigns.

edited 10th Oct '16 5:20:19 PM by Elle

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#143128: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:50:39 PM

As usual Trump is full of shit.

The Economist: Notes from the undergrowth

Hillary Clinton’s environmental plans are pragmatic. Donald Trump’s are non-existent

DESPITE deluges in the South, droughts in the West and fires throughout national forests this year, the words “climate” and “change” have seldom been uttered together on the campaign trail. Fifteen of the 16 hottest years on record have occurred since 2000. Yet Donald Trump has claimed that global warming is a Chinese hoax designed to thwart American businesses (he also denied saying so at the first debate between the candidates, on September 26th). Hillary Clinton believes that “climate change is real” and that dealing with it will create jobs in the renewable-energy sector. In sum, the two candidates offer completely different environmental platforms.

Uncoupling emissions growth and economic expansion is important to slowing climate change. Total energy consumption in America has dropped 1.5% since Barack Obama became president, according to the White House; in that time the economy has swelled by 10%. America now generates more than three times as much electricity from wind, and 30 times as much electricity from solar, as it did eight years ago.

Most voters accept that climate change is happening. But Republicans and Democrats disagree as to why, according to the Yale Programme on Climate Change Communication, a research group. Half of Mr Trump’s supporters reckon natural causes explain it, whereas three in four of Mrs Clinton’s backers say, with almost all climate scientists, that man-made emissions are to blame.

In 2015 the most robust deal yet on curbing global carbon emissions emerged. The Paris Agreement aims to limit global warming to “well below” 2ºC above pre-industrial temperatures. For its part, America promised to lower its emissions of carbon dioxide by 26-28% by 2025, as measured against the levels of 2005.

An important step to achieving this goal was unveiled last year: the Clean Power Plan. This proposes the country’s first national standards to limit carbon-dioxide emissions from power plants—America’s largest source of greenhouse gases. Legal challenges from fossil-fuel groups and two dozen mostly Republican-led states saw the Supreme Court put it on hold eight months ago. Some opponents argue the plan is unconstitutional; far stronger claims are made that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is overstepping its remit. Hearings on the plan began on September 27th. Whatever the outcome, the EPA retains the right to regulate carbon dioxide: the justices ensured that by declaring it a pollutant in 2007.

This is one area where Mrs Clinton is running for a third Obama term. She intends to make America a “clean energy superpower” by speeding up the process of greening that Mr Obama began. Within four years she wants half a billion solar panels installed, and by 2027 she plans for a third of electricity to come from renewables. Mrs Clinton laments that poorer areas are often the most polluted—citing, for example, the filthy water in Flint, Michigan. States and cities which build greener infrastructure, such as more thermally efficient buildings, will get handouts worth $60 billion. Mrs Clinton is vague about how she would pay for this, but slashing fossil-fuel subsidies could be part of the answer. Such handouts came to nearly $38 billion in 2014, according to Oil Change International, a research outfit, though estimates vary wildly.

Green types argue that such ambitious plans are possible. But since America is already lagging on its climate pledges for 2025, according to a study just published in Nature Climate Change, such optimism appears misplaced—especially as Mrs Clinton has no plans either to price or to tax carbon. In this she has learned from Mr Obama’s failures. His attempt to pass a cap-and-trade bill floundered in 2010, and he has tried to avoid Congress on environmental issues ever since. The Clean Air Act of 1963, for example, supposedly underpins the Clean Power Plan, allowing him to dodge the Senate. Mr Obama has also used his executive authority to ratify the Paris climate deal and to create the world’s largest protected marine area off Hawaii.

Mrs Clinton may follow suit with environmental executive actions of her own, according to hints from her campaign chief, John Podesta, Mr Obama’s environmental mastermind. She may seek to regulate methane leaking from existing gas installations and to tighten fuel-efficiency standards.

But what one president enacts, the next can challenge. Mr Obama’s penchant for executive action leaves the door open for Mr Trump to stall and perhaps reverse environmental policies if he becomes president. His intention to rip up the Paris Agreement will prove hard to carry out in a single term, however: it comes into force before January, and untangling America from its provisions could take around four years. Mr Trump favours oil and gas production on federal lands and opening offshore areas to drilling. He also plans “a top-down review of all anti-coal regulations”. Such moves could imperil the Paris deal anyway. If the world’s second-largest polluter shirked its pledges to cut emissions, many other countries would wriggle out of theirs.

Either candidate, as president, would be at the mercy of the markets. A glut of fossil fuels means that coal production has declined by almost a quarter since the highs of 2008. Improvements in fracking technology may see American shale output stabilise, and perhaps even grow, if it allows firms to compete more efficiently with rivals in Saudi Arabia. But the cost of solar and wind power, and of the storage needed to smooth out their variations, will keep dropping. If Mr Trump becomes president, energy firms may reduce emissions anyway. If Mrs Clinton does, they may give her green policies a needed boost.

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#143129: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:17:46 PM

An old acquiantance wrote an article about what was the worst part of the Trump tape for her

    The Worst Part 
It wasn’t listening to his asinine bragging about adultery or pussy-grabbing.

It wasn’t listening to him refer to Arianne Zucker’s publicist as “the other one” or to Zucker as “those legs.”

It wasn’t listening to Billy Bush guffawing like a 33-year-old frat boy.

No, the worst part of the video was watching Billy Bush coax a woman into letting a man who had just boasted of sexual assault touch her.

The worst part was seeing her clench her teeth and acquiesce, despite every non-verbal cue she gave to demonstrate her repugnance. She kept her body as far as physically possible while she half-heartedly submitted to an embrace and a kiss.

The worst part was watching Bush continue to act as the world’s sleaziest “wing man” as he maneuvered Zucker to walk arm-in-arm with Trump, demanding that she “choose” which man she’d rather date.

The worst part was the strange mixture of deep empathy and betrayal I felt as I listened to her laugh nervously and decline to choose, and then faux flirtatiously pick “both” to de-escalate the situation.

I understood what she was experiencing, yet I wanted so badly to see her withdraw her arm.

I wanted her so badly to say “Can we not? I’m here to do a job, not to be whored out to a reality star.”

I wanted so badly to see her walk away.

But I knew why she didn’t, because anything she said would have been met with defensiveness, with gaslighting, and with “just harmless fun.”

That’s the worst part ― not the assault, not the sleaziness. It’s having to “just go along with it” or fight to be taken seriously.

I’m 13. It’s summertime. I’m behind the clubhouse at the pool. Two older boys in my neighborhood are teaching me how to smoke.

“You have to breathe in as you suck the cigarette. Not like a straw, that’ll make you sick.”

They have a good laugh as they see me go green, gag, and cough until I almost vomit.

But after a few puffs, I get the hang of it.

A week later, I’m home alone and there’s a knock at my apartment door. It’s the boys. They have a new pack of smokes. Wanna go have a smoke break?

I go with them. We walk to a small wooded area on the edge of the apartment complex. We huddle around the cigarette pack. I reach to pull out a cigarette when one of the boys pulls it away, out of my reach.

“You can have one of these, but you’re going to have to suck our dicks.”

I freeze. They’re joking. They have to be joking, right?

But one of them starts unzipping his fly.

I run.

After an hour of hiding out at a neighbor’s apartment (I don’t tell them because I don’t want to get in trouble for smoking), I go back to my place.

When I go to my bedroom I see that the window is open.

They threw dirt on my bed.

Here’s the worst part:

I’m at a hearing at juvenile court, testifying against the boys. Their defense attorney is questioning me.

“Your mother tells me you’re involved with theater, is that correct?”

“Yes.”

“You like to act, is that right?”

“Yes.”

“Isn’t acting pretending? Do you like to pretend?”

“…um, yes, but — ”

“So it’s fair to say you must have a very good imagination and must be very good at making things up, right?”

I look at my mother. She looks down at her hands. I feel sick.

I’m 14. We’re at a cook out. I’m wearing a tank top and Daisy Dukes.

One of my mom’s friends, a guy in his late twenties, looks at me and gives me a slow whistle.

“Man, if you were legal, I’d do you in a heartbeat.”

I feel naked. But I laugh and smile through clenched teeth.

Here’s the worst part:

Later, when I tell my mom, she smiles and says I’m turning into a beautiful woman, so I shouldn’t be surprised if guys start noticing me.

I’m 9. We’re taking a train from Baltimore to Fort Lauderdale. We’ve been on the train for 12 hours. It’s late at night.

To pass the time, my mom has been hanging out in the club car.

I’ve been reading in my seat but get up to check in on her and to get something to drink.

When I pass through the doors, I spot her playing a card game with a tall guy wearing a wide-brimmed hat. She introduces me and we take a moment to chat before I let her know I’m going to sleep. She gives me a kiss goodnight.

I settle into my seat, close my eyes, and drift to sleep.

I shift in my seat, and feel the presence of someone else.

Someone staring at me.

I open my eyes a sliver and between my lashes I see the silhouette of a tall man in a wide-brimmed hat.

I shut my eyes and pretend to sleep and wait, occasionally peeking through my lashes.

He doesn’t leave for at least 5 minutes.

Here’s the worst part:

When I tell my mom, she shakes her head.

“It was probably a bad dream.”

I’m 16:

“Stop wearing such baggy clothes. You have a gorgeous body. You should show off your curves.”

I’m 23:

“Don’t be afraid to flirt. It’s the only reason some of these guys will let a female sales rep in the door. Use it.”

I’m 18:

“Oh, he was just a dirty old man.”

I’m 39:

“…Just locker room talk. …A distraction.”

I’m 39: “Whoa, whoa, whoa... you’re getting way too emotional about this. It’s sad that this happened to you, but all kids get bullied.”

That’s the worst part.

It isn’t when it happens; it’s what happens when you talk about it.

edited 10th Oct '16 6:18:13 PM by TheWanderer

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#143130: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:29:18 PM

Hey I was just wondering, as someone that doesn't really follow US news a lot. Why do so many people think Hilary Clinton's a bad person?
It starts with the whitewater controversy, and continues into other issues like her pushing fracking on other countries, and her getting public support from neoconservatives in the news before the primaries even started. And just in general she's cried wolf on so many issues, that nobody believes anything she says anymore.

There may not be a GOP as a major political power to demonize her much longer.
Dems won't even hold Bush against the GOP anymore. In fact they're not even afraid of being seen hugging him at public events. With that in mind odds are they won't hold Trump against them either, and we'll get someone worse than Trump running after the next 4 years.

edited 10th Oct '16 6:32:11 PM by xanderiskander

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A procrastination in of itself
#143131: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:33:12 PM

Thing is Bush wasn't the mastermind behind a lot of his bad policies, I doubt you'll find any Dems willing to speak nice about Dick Chaney, Trump will likely go the same way as Chaney.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143132: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:33:20 PM

Who could be worse than Trump? Cruz? Rubio?

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143134: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:34:58 PM

So Paul Ryan is a hypocrite for condemning Trump?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#143135: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:36:52 PM

And just in general she's cried wolf on so many issues, that nobody believes anything she says anymore.

Not to start a big thing again, but I've never heard it phrased this way; what exactly would you say she's "cried wolf" about?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#143136: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:37:39 PM

Cruz has enough savvy and personal conviction to actually follow through with his bullshit.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#143137: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:40:55 PM

Maybe someone we haven't really heard of who, in the wake of a Trump defeat, finally sees his chance to jump into the ring?

edited 10th Oct '16 6:42:41 PM by kkhohoho

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#143138: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:41:23 PM

I'm worried they'll haul out Walker as a faux moderate.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#143139: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:43:24 PM

I'm actually kind of interested in who the Democrats will be running eight years from now (assuming that Clinton wins this time, of course).

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143140: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:44:14 PM

You mean the union-busting, sleepy-eyed Scott Walker? Screw that guy.

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A procrastination in of itself
#143141: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:44:33 PM

Thing is the base is likely to want to double down after Trump, we're not going to get even a false moderate unless the GOP learns from a Trump defeat, and the GOP seems committed in its opposition to learning.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143142: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:46:43 PM

That's a scary thought, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that's what they decide to do.

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#143143: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:52:49 PM

This Chris Kluwe was a bit of an odd duck within the NFL, no?

Still, great read.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#143144: Oct 10th 2016 at 6:58:11 PM

[up]I agree.

I don't follow sports at all so IDK much about Kluwe, but still.

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#143145: Oct 10th 2016 at 7:03:46 PM

Well, aside from reading the words "LGBT rights activist" and "XCOM player" (the guy wrote an actually funny beginner guide for gameinformer!) on his wikipedia page, my last encounter with the notion of NFL players was this link, where 21/21 white players voted Trump, and 20/22 black players voted Clinton. Imagine my surprise when the guy writing this lovely piece happens to be whiter than me.

edited 10th Oct '16 7:04:40 PM by Julep

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143146: Oct 10th 2016 at 7:26:02 PM

Sometimes I wonder just how much of the criticism directed towards HRC is due to a Double Standard related to gender or just an excuse to mask outright misogyny.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#143148: Oct 10th 2016 at 7:55:12 PM

[up]I'm actually stumped, who is that supposed to be?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#143149: Oct 10th 2016 at 8:04:30 PM

The US intel community is pissed at Trump. Both parties' candidates, surrogates and leadership were informed that the Russians were behind the DNC hack. Trump, however, tried to dispute the Russian connection, going so far as to dispute there being a hack to begin with.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#143150: Oct 10th 2016 at 8:11:51 PM

The email thing was legitimately a mistake on her part, but I don't think it would have been as big a deal if it were another politician.

We don't even have to speculate about that: Colin Powell literally did the same thing, except without bothering to keep the records he was supposed to. Likewise, a lot of politicians deleted numerous emails. George W Bush is thought to have hidden and deleted emails related to the controversial sacking of federal judges. People are getting away scot free for the "crimes" that people keep accusing Hillary of.

Thing is Bush wasn't the mastermind behind a lot of his bad policies, I doubt you'll find any Dems willing to speak nice about Dick Chaney,

The other big factors are that A) Bush looks downright sane compared to today's GOP and B), he basically retired and disappeared from public view. No way will Trump ever do that, and Trump will be remembered as a monster unfit for the presidency no matter what happens to the GOP. I'm not sure if anything short of literal civil war could make Trump look good.

I'm actually kind of interested in who the Democrats will be running eight years from now (assuming that Clinton wins this time, of course).

There is definitely a lack of prominent young Democrats. Hopefully another Obama will appear out of nowhere when the time comes.

I'm actually stumped, who is that supposed to be?

Reverse image search says it's Roland Friesler, president of the Nazi "People's Court" during WW 2.

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