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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142926: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:01:01 PM

[up][up] I can understand why you'd feel that way, but a lot of other people have drawn different conclusions. I will say that Clinton won the debate, but I don't think that it was by as wide a margin as last time.

[up] I don't believe so, but I don't know for sure.

Oh God! Natural light!
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#142927: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:05:55 PM

yeah, nobody here denied that Hilary won, the issue is HOW MUCH she won, the first debate hurt trump a lot, to the point many in /pol/ admit it, here Trump come as jerkish...but not much of a meltdown everyone was expecting.

she punch him in the nose, but he life to spread his stupidy another day

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#142928: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:06:31 PM

He's dug himself into a pretty deep hole. If he starts climbing out tomorrow and never stumbles, he might be able to reach ground level. But forcing the race into a coin flip is the very best he can hope for.

Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#142929: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:14:21 PM

[up]that's pretty optimistic, given the kind of person trump has shown himself to be. (ie, arrogant, ignorant, bull-headed, & incapable of learning from mistakes)

I'll start believing trump has any chances left, when he actual starts showing signs of improving. evil grin

edited 9th Oct '16 11:14:47 PM by Jetyl

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#142930: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:19:49 PM

Optimistic is not a word I'd use to describe the things I just said. Cautious would be better, or perhaps even pessimistic.

But really I think he has less than a 10% chance of winning now.

Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#142931: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:25:36 PM

[up] well according to 538's now cast, its actually a 13.9% chance. tongue

but yeah, I meant optimistic for his supporters. unfortunately, for us, we still have to pay attention to him for a month, but at least now I'm not losing sleep over it.

edited 9th Oct '16 11:27:01 PM by Jetyl

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#142932: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:28:42 PM

After watching some of it... holy shit, Hillary had so many "looks into the camera like i'm on the office" moments tonight. A few times, she legit looked like she was about cry-laugh from hearing that endless barrage of nonsense.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142933: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:31:44 PM

A thought occurred to me - do you think that this debate focused more on the issues than the previous one?

Oh God! Natural light!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#142934: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:32:27 PM

So how much do we expect Trump speaking out against Pence mid-debate to affect him? I imagine what he just did is considered a huge faux pas.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#142935: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:33:30 PM

does anyone know if this debate had a spin room? and if so, did Trump both staying around for it like the last one?
He did not stick around this time.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#142936: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:36:34 PM

So The Guardian ran an article about #TrumpWon actually starting in Russia...

And all the putinbots descended on it for daring to suggest that they were trying to influence the election and complaining about how Russians get blamed for everything negative in the world.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#142937: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:55:56 PM

What's weird is, not even the USSR at the height of the Cold War had managed to tamper with US elections, and American internal politics in general, to this extent.

I gotta give props to Putin, that's quite an achievement.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#142938: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:56:50 PM

[up][up] Well, the Russians did torture and/or kill thousands of Europeans and natives of Central Asia...

edited 10th Oct '16 12:03:11 AM by Bat178

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#142939: Oct 10th 2016 at 12:12:10 AM

Ruskbots? Redrobos? We need a good name for the russian internet defense force.

Well from CNN and a few of the more scientific instant polling looks like Clinton got the win so very slightly. Of course who "wins" the debate generally actually occurs with whoever has the better soundbites. Trump calling for clinton to be locked up and throwing pence under the bus make for some delicious noise. I expect both of those to be the major talking points come the morning shows.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#142940: Oct 10th 2016 at 12:14:30 AM

Trump's soundbites might be better, but they're of the kind that would turn at least as many undecideds against him as for.

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#142941: Oct 10th 2016 at 12:16:35 AM

[up][up] Ruskiebots/Putinbots. That's what they are usually called.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#142942: Oct 10th 2016 at 1:25:44 AM

I was asleep. How did it go? Did Hillary steamroll the pig?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#142943: Oct 10th 2016 at 1:52:04 AM

What's weird is, not even the USSR at the height of the Cold War had managed to tamper with US elections, and American internal politics in general, to this extent.

I gotta give props to Putin, that's quite an achievement.

I think it's less Putin and co. being more competent at the task and more that there's no more Red Scare driving Washington into being (over)zealous about sniffing out Commie spies, plus technological advancements (the Internet as a public civilian service wasn't a thing yet when the USSR fell).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#142944: Oct 10th 2016 at 2:01:57 AM

I set an alarm but I straight slept through the entire debate and the alarm.

What happened?

Oh really when?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#142945: Oct 10th 2016 at 2:05:58 AM

[up] Donald was able to clear the very low bar set for him, but HRC still did better according to the polls.

Donald also came across as somewhat predatory and creepy, pacing around behind HRC in a vain attempt to intimidate her. He also threatened to set up a special prosecution to have her jailed if he becomes president. Which is rather...fascistic.

And pretty much every time Trump spoke about actual issues, he was either lying or demonstrating that he knows absolutely nothing about the issue. For example, he's pretty much clueless about what's going on in Syria.

HRC for her part handled the personal attack questions directed at her well enough and actually managed to discuss the actual relevant issues. You could tell by the end that she was pretty much sick of Trump's crap.

The best part was the end. When someone asked them what they admired about the other person, Hillary responded that she respected Donnie's children (note she didn't say his parenting) probably because of her daughter Chelsea's friendship with Ivanka. Trump responded that he respected HRC's Determinator nature.

Some of the media pundits still tried to frame this as a good night for Trump. Gotta keep that clickbait ratings horse race going.

edited 10th Oct '16 2:11:14 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#142946: Oct 10th 2016 at 4:49:40 AM

Trump's whole candidacy is so utterly nonsensical that this debate could actually end up putting him back in the race. Who knows. He hasn't been disqualified yet, which in itself is a complete Violation of Common Sense.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#142947: Oct 10th 2016 at 4:53:41 AM

[up] He tossed red meat to his rabid supporters. Probably won't help him attract new voters though, especially women.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#142948: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:01:06 AM

At this point the idea seems to be that Trump's voter floor is the same as his voter ceiling. His rabid fans won't give up on him no matter what he says, but no one even remotely undecided is gonna get convinced by him.

edited 10th Oct '16 5:33:55 AM by Clarste

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#142949: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:11:51 AM

The next debate is going to be interesting. Remember, that's the one with the FOX moderator.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#142950: Oct 10th 2016 at 5:19:25 AM

[up][up] He may have demoralized some of Clinton's flakier supporters though, and turnout collapsing for democrats is pretty much the only way he comes out ahead. That's extremely unlikely to be enough on its own, though I doubt he's going to lose support from this debate. He might regain some of the support lost from the hot mic tapes.

Ultimately, I'm not quite ready to call it, and I personally suspect it will be close-ish (Clinton +3/+4 or so) simply because the fundamentals of this race favor an extremely tight race.

edited 10th Oct '16 5:21:51 AM by CaptainCapsase


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