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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142876: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:03:56 PM

On CNN: apparently a lot of women didn't like all the pacing that Trump did - they thought it was creepy. I do think he did seem to be sort of looming over her sometimes. He just couldn't sit still.

edited 9th Oct '16 8:04:17 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#142877: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:06:00 PM

Trump in general doesn't seem like someone comfortable with staying still while standing. Even if he's not pacing he's doing a lot of gesturing as he talks. Just seems to be how he most effectively communicates.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142878: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:06:19 PM

sad

It was kinda creepy how he was lurking.

I feel like I have a lot of impotent rage in this election. I can't convince my family that Trump doesn't seem like a very nice guy. What's the point of being angry if I can't change anything with it?

edited 9th Oct '16 8:07:47 PM by BearyScary

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#142879: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:07:15 PM

Lurking? That's a stretch.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#142880: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:09:08 PM

I can back up the "pacing guy makes me nervous" thing. It always feels really aggressive and scary.

KingNick1995 from Somewhere over the waynebow Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
#142881: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:10:18 PM

[up] [up]Not really. I mean he kept moving to wherever Clinton was standing and kept glaring at her

edited 9th Oct '16 8:10:36 PM by KingNick1995

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142882: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:11:37 PM

I tend to pace a lot when I'm, say, talking to my parents, as a way to sort of work off excess energy - my mom gets annoyed by it. Maybe I should work on getting that under control...

edited 9th Oct '16 8:12:01 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#142883: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:13:39 PM

I'm not good with staying still either.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#142884: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:14:46 PM

[up][up][up]No...that's still a stretch.

I pace around too, hope that isn't too creepy.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142885: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:20:49 PM

Also from CNN: was Trump's "I'm going to appoint a special prosecutor to put you in jail" a bigger gaffe than it might have originally appeared?

It does seem to bring to mind Christ Christie's witch hunt at the RNC...

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Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Dev Cat
#142886: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:21:44 PM

as someone who also tends to pace, I wanna say he comes off as creepy because of what he's doing while pacing. I'm usually off in my own little world, my attention, not really on anything around me.

Trump, clearly has his attention on Hillary, making what he's doing mimic predatory behavior (like actual animal predators), hence, creepy.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#142887: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:25:49 PM

Wait, but what about the times he wasn't looking at her? You can't call that "predatory behavior" when there were times when he was looking off into the audience and whatnot.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#142888: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:26:02 PM

I just don't know who Trump is trying to persuade with these sorts of attacks. There were times I thought he was about to physically attack Clinton. How can anyone want that as President?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142889: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:31:56 PM

Also, apparently Rudy Giuliani has been going off about Bill Clinton's semen being on Monica Lewinsky's desk?

Can anyone confirm this?

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#142890: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:32:55 PM

MSNBC were talking about how he was getting closer to her during all this pacing, and just sort of looming over her. Maybe the pacing wouldn't have come off as so creepy if he hadn't been getting closer to her and trying to physically dominate her like that. Also, he repeatedly said he was going to jail her after he won because.... various reasons that she's already been declared not guilty of.

[up]Well, uh... even if true, it's twenty years out of date and Lewinsky herself has already sounded off about the whole thing. Which reminds me I actually intended to buy that book of hers once. Not sure what Giuliani hoped to gain from that.

edited 9th Oct '16 8:34:00 PM by AceofSpades

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#142891: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:35:06 PM

"I'll tell you what. I didn't think I'd say this, and I'm going to say it, and hate to say it: If I win, I'm going to instruct the attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation because there's never been so many lies, so much deception … A very expensive process, so we're going to get a special prosecutor because people have been, their lives have been destroyed for doing one-fifth of what you've done. And it's a disgrace, and honestly, you ought to be ashamed."

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142892: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:40:21 PM

Clinton on CNN: "[Trump] was very present."

They didn't catch the whole thing, but I think she mentioned her "stool", so I believe she was referring to his "lurking".

And CNN's poll says that Clinton won the debate, but 63% said that Trump did better than expected.

edited 9th Oct '16 8:41:33 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#142893: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:46:55 PM

[up] To be fair, Trump did do better than expected... in that he neither called Clinton a derogatory term nor did he try to punch her. That's how low opinion of him has gotten.

edited 9th Oct '16 8:47:58 PM by GameGuruGG

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#142894: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:48:19 PM

It's such a low bar that "better than expected" is really easy to achieve. It's like handicapping a match between a kindergartener and a pro sports player.

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Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#142895: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:49:02 PM

[up][up][up] again, his tone was more low-key, like he was tired, outta energy. made him, appear at least, more restrained

edited 9th Oct '16 8:49:17 PM by Jetyl

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#142896: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:49:49 PM

listening to Trump's campaign manager is weird.

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Vampire Hunter
#142897: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:53:23 PM

[up][up][up] Don't you mean a debate between a kindergartner and a professional politician or is that a little too on the nose for a comparison?

I kid! I kid! A kindergartner would be more well-behaved than Donald Trump.

edited 9th Oct '16 8:57:06 PM by GameGuruGG

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142898: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:53:39 PM

I really don't like her.

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LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#142899: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:54:27 PM

Europe-US time differences meant that I was asleep during most of this. But from what I hear on Reddit, it was a bloodbath. Can someone synoptically tell me what did I miss?

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#142900: Oct 9th 2016 at 8:59:50 PM

As a European with no self-control whatsoever, I stayed up to watch this. (Yeah, I'm not sleeping tonight - it's basically morning already.)

Neither candidate did poorly. Trump was mostly focused on delivering zingers, some of which were fairly potent, while rapidly changing the subject whenever something negative about him came up.

Clinton was very much about staying calm and keeping cool. She was on the defensive a lot of the time, but did a good job with the challenges posed her by the questions and Trump. Her own attacks on Trump were very spot-on, especially with the fact-checking stuff. She also really wanted to have a go at Russia, without spending a lot of time connecting Trump to Putin. I think she was trying to convey that everyone already knows about that connection, which Trump of course denies.

The moderators seemed a bit harsh on Trump, insisting that he reply to a question sometimes when he deflected and reminding him of the time limit on answers. They also told Clinton to stop talking a couple of times, but neither candidate obeyed. Trump complained about the moderators for allegedly going easy on Clinton, but to be fair Trump was misbehaving more, especially with interruptions. Trump also got more follow-up questions, and thus more time, so it was a bit petty of him to complain that the moderators allowed Clinton to go on on some answers.

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