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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#142601: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:08:27 PM

[up][up]Haven't it been established that that doesn't actually matter? Trump himself could quit if he wanted, regardless of what is on the ballots. Furthermore, technically people don't actually vote for the candidates anyway.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#142602: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:36:24 PM

Pre-debate link roundup:

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/09/497056227/fact-check-clinton-and-trump-debate-for-the-second-time NPR live stream, live transcript and live fact checking (they haven't added the video embed yet but it should be up by debate time - audio stream via NPR radio also availible.)

http://twitter.com/politifactlive - More live fact checking.

edited 9th Oct '16 5:36:49 PM by Elle

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#142603: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:42:08 PM

Who's gonna be the moderator?

Inter arma enim silent leges
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#142604: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:43:07 PM

Isn't this one Anderson Cooper?

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#142605: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:45:10 PM

Trump just hosted a press conference with Bill Clinton's rape accusers.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#142606: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:48:13 PM

[up][up]Anderson Cooper from CNN and Martha Raddatz from ABC.

edited 9th Oct '16 5:48:30 PM by Elle

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#142607: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:49:18 PM

Random revelation: This election is Bart Simpson vs Lisa Simpson.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142608: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:52:02 PM

Woah, there. Bart isn't that bad of a person. tongue

Do not obey in advance.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#142610: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:56:32 PM

Even Mr. Burns has more heart than Donald Trump.

"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#142611: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:59:16 PM

True. He did try to recycle that one time

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142612: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:01:24 PM

It's kinda funny when The Simpsons is applicable to reality. Though also sad in this case.

Do not obey in advance.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142613: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:02:11 PM

Bill Clinton's rape accusers are in the audience.

This could get ugly...

(I mean, we already know that it will be, but more so now...)

Oh God! Natural light!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#142614: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:02:18 PM

[up]Thankfully, polls have shown that most voters disapprove of that line of attack. If anything it should hurt Trump even more.

edited 9th Oct '16 6:03:07 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#142615: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:02:50 PM

Wanna bet those women who were in the audience about Bill Clinton will say something.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#142616: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:04:05 PM

They can't, the questions and askers were determined in advance. And they've got nothing new to use.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142617: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:05:13 PM

I think that only the selected audience members will be able to say something.

Still, maybe they'll interrupt the candidates?

[nja]

edited 9th Oct '16 6:05:25 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#142618: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:05:15 PM

I can't believe they letting people who haven't been paying attention ask questions.

edited 9th Oct '16 6:07:15 PM by NoName999

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#142620: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:07:18 PM

"Are you a positive role model?"

Boy, I'd love to hear Trump's response to this.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#142621: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:08:47 PM

I've been watching some videos of past presidential debates, and I've been wondering - do you guys think there are any particular moments - it can be as small as a single remark - that more or less won/lost a candidate the election?

I'm not sure about fully swinging an election, but comments that become essentially the only headline about the debates can create quite a swing.

In the 1988 Vice-Presidential debate, Dan Quayle (R) was asked whether he had enough experience to be President, if the need should arise. He responded by saying he had as much experience as Kennedy did. The reply from Lloyd Bentsen (D) was:

Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy.

(Note that Bush still won, but Quayle's popularity never recovered.)

Then there's Reagan, asked whether his age is a problem:

I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience.

So a bit of a joke, a bit of charisma, can go a long way.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#142622: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:08:49 PM

After the first debate, they may just boot anyone who disregards the request for silence from the audience from the room. If anyone does. The VP debates seems to show they're being a little more on the ball regarding that.

edited 9th Oct '16 6:09:29 PM by AceofSpades

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#142623: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:09:18 PM

Subdued seemingly, but he's just whining about Obama.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#142624: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:10:39 PM

Is Trump rambling or is it just me? He seems to be talking about a lot of different things.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142625: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:10:52 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yeah, saw both of them in the videos I mentioned, and I already knew about the Quayle thing.

Also, I think Trump's still sniffling.

edited 9th Oct '16 6:11:14 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!

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