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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#142526: Oct 9th 2016 at 11:58:24 AM

I'm still waiting for Country Matters come up at some point. Like if he called Clinton the C-word during the debate...that would ruin him entirely.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142527: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:09:47 PM

I'm personally waiting for him to call her an "unfuckable lardass", though that would just be the icing on his intensely sexist cake at this rate.

I'm convinced that Trump is desperate to assert something through the way he seems proud of how he treats woman. Heterosexuality? General toxic masculinity? I don't know.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that Trump seems to suffer from deep-seated self-loathing that causes him to act this way, but I don't think he's self-aware or reflective enough for that.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
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#142528: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:12:25 PM

He would never dare call her a cunt, ugly or fat or old maybe. But he isn't a british type of person, his New York blue collar character wouldn't want to sound across the pond there for a moment.

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#142529: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:15:33 PM

I'm personally waiting for him to call her an "unfuckable lardass", though that would just be the icing on his intensely sexist cake at this rate.

It would also be a blatant case of the pot calling the kettle black. No woman would have sex with him unless he paid her, in one fashion or another. Including his wives, I'll bet.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142530: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:17:37 PM

The whole "boys will be boys" dismissive attitude is based in victim blaming. If a guy creeps on a woman with that attitude, it's supposed to absolve him of any responsibility for his own actions.

Sadly, it seems to work.

Also, Billy Bush laughed at Trump's "pussy" comment. Just wanted to point that out. He laughed.

[up]Yep!

edited 9th Oct '16 12:18:06 PM by BearyScary

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#142531: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:19:56 PM

Most people now are thinking one of those tapes is him saying the N-Word.

If that's the case and it's the hard "er" version, well, he's completely fucked.

As that's one of the very very few things in this country that gets you near universally labeled as a racist.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#142532: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:19:57 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Self-loathing is weird thing. You would think that if you technically hated yourself, you'd take your own life or whip yourself constantly, or just be ashamed 24/7 or something. Rather, it manifests in a form of "escape" in the form of things like addiction, disproportionate egotism, anything that distracts you from........you.

edited 9th Oct '16 12:20:35 PM by nervmeister

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#142533: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:33:33 PM

Most people now are thinking one of those tapes is him saying the N-Word. If that's the case and it's the hard "er" version, well, he's completely fucked.

Given Trump's track record I'm betting that it's the N-word with a hard r.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142534: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:35:33 PM

Self-hatred is... complicated. Most people only want to do things that are easy, and for them, turning that hatred outward is easier.

I once read a Cracked article about racists that featured a former KKK member (or was it a neo-nazi? I can't remember), and he claimed that he didn't really hate black people, just that he was looking for an outlet to vent his frustrations.

I have noticed that Trump has an odd delay when he refers to African-Americans. Almost like he's checking with himself to see if he's sure that's a term for Black people in this country. It's weird. IDK if any of you folks on here have noticed that or if I'm hallucinating.

edited 9th Oct '16 12:37:09 PM by BearyScary

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#142535: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:54:48 PM

[up]"Self-hatred" may be a misleading term. I think the term "self-avoidance" paints a more accurate picture.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142536: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:02:14 PM

[up]That's interesting. I've never heard of anyone using that term before.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#142537: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:04:37 PM

Frankly, I don't think Trump could do self-loathing if you handed him a step-by-step guide. I peg him as having the kind of narcissistic personality disorder which couldn't find enough objectivity to sit back and self-reflect for anything.

All subjective all the time, baby. And, stuck in the now, even though he can remember yesterday. Not so sure he's all that good at tomorrow, either... otherwise, he wouldn't suck so badly with businesses. :/ Visualising consequences is not among his strongest suits.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:06:40 PM by Euodiachloris

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142538: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:06:56 PM

I'm disappointed that some are still standing by him, but not surprised.

Why wasn't the video with the "pussy" released before now?

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#142539: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:09:44 PM

[up][up]I dont know. Wouldn't a constant craving for attention reflect a lack of self-satisfaction? Like if you felt pleased with the kind of person you are, wouldn't fame be the last thing you'd care about?

edited 9th Oct '16 1:10:04 PM by nervmeister

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#142540: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:14:42 PM

[up][up] Easy... The video that was leaked was just found. Someone at Access Hollywood remembered having tapes of Trump's misogyny on camera so they dug through the archive and found this tape. It was to be on the next episode of Access Hollywood when someone at NBC leaked the tape to the Washington Post.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#142541: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:14:58 PM

Lack of satisfaction is not necessarily self hatred. In any case, Trump has a huge ego.

My question is what happens when people point out his refusal to pay up for his contracts to people who say they're impressed with his business acumen. Traditionally, a refusal to pay your employees and contractors tends to lead to not having a good business reputation.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142542: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:18:12 PM

[up][up]I see. I didn't know that. I wonder who archived it without revealing it before now... Probably another person afraid of getting sued or their career destroyed by someone richer and more powerful than them. sad

A constant need for attention doesn't always mean self-loathing. Loneliness, maybe. There are probably countless reasons why someone would constantly need external acknowledgement.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:20:17 PM by BearyScary

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#142543: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:20:06 PM

Lack of satisfaction is not necessarily self hatred. In any case, Trump has a huge ego
Though it's not exactly a durable one if his visible reaction to jokes made at his expense is anything to go by, never mind criticism. So there could very well be self-loathing/avoidance involved.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:22:07 PM by nervmeister

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142544: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:21:24 PM

He may have buried it so deep that he doesn't even realize that it forms a backbone of his decisions.

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#142545: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:29:06 PM

[up][up][up] There is a rumor that NBC actually intentionally leaked the tape to the Washington Post so that they would not be culpable to a lawsuit from Trump. Sometimes companies will intentionally leak something to the press if they are worried about legal issues.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:29:45 PM by GameGuruGG

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#142546: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:30:00 PM

[up][up]Some people are just born incapable of certain aspects of metacognition in the same way some people are born with dyslexia fouling up their symbolic processing.

The brain is complex, and it can bork in very many interesting ways, some of it congenital, environmental or through injury. <shrugs> You can never say for certain why somebody is the way they are without a thorough patient history, several psychometric tests and an ECG or two.

And, Trump isn't mid-range, so you can forget standard explanations.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:33:33 PM by Euodiachloris

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#142547: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:36:27 PM

If I may suggest... let's not dig too deeply into Trump's head, shall we? It's not a healthy place to be.

Personally, I don't give a dead rat's patootie what his motives are. I just want him to lose the election, and go back to being that mildly annoying pop-culture reference left over from the Eighties.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#142548: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:36:34 PM

If NBC did leak the tape, what does that say about how they feel in regards to Trump after dumping him from The Apprentice?

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#142549: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:42:26 PM

Just seen on Twitter as a sponsored tweet, Trump's campaign calling tonight "the biggest night of the campaign" and hawking for donations. Gee, what happened to the RNC war chest...ooooh, riiiight....

Also seen on Twitter: Mark Burnett (producer of The Apprentice, Survivor, etc and also apparently a Trump backer) is threatening employees who leak damaging footage.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:43:49 PM by Elle

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#142550: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:42:59 PM

I don't know, I don't care, I want to stop thinking about Trump. I want to forget him.

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