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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#142376: Oct 8th 2016 at 11:56:06 AM

RNC just halted Trump from having access to the Victory Fund.

Shit just got real.

Hillary has won.

The only question that remains is what will Congress looks like.

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Jetyl The Dev Cat from my apartment Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#142377: Oct 8th 2016 at 11:59:56 AM

[up]what's the victory fund?

[up][up][up][up] by that logic, the GOP is too principled, what with their desire for ideological purity, & their tendency to ignore reality because it doesn't agree with them.

edited 8th Oct '16 12:01:30 PM by Jetyl

I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#142378: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:00:26 PM

[up][up][up]

And even if it is personally principled on the part of individual politicians, it doesn't seem "fair" that the replacement candidate would win in part as a "reward" for this supposedly principled action.

It may be too late for the Republicans to field a replacement candidate.

edited 8th Oct '16 12:00:39 PM by Greenmantle

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#142379: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:04:15 PM

This is the only Victory Fund I could find, but it's probably not the one Tactical Fox is talking about.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#142380: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:14:27 PM

Trump actually issued a better apology. And I'd say this one is genuinely clever. "I've said stupid shit, I regret it, it was wrong, believe in me. Also, Bill Clinton actually went further than words and abused women, and Hillary character-assassinated her husband's victims."

"I've never said I'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I'm not. I've said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more-than-a-decade-old video are one of them.

"Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize. I’ve traveled the country talking about change for America, but my travels have also changed me. I've spent time with grieving mothers who have lost their children, laid-off workers whose jobs have gone to other countries, and people from all walks of life who just want a better future.

"I have gotten to know the great people of our country, and I've been humbled by the faith they've placed in me. I pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never, ever let you down.

"Let's be honest: We're living in the real world. This is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues we're facing today. We are losing our jobs, we're less safe than we were eight years ago, and Washington is totally broken.

"Hillary Clinton and her kind have run our country into the ground. I've said some foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women, and Hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims. We will discuss this more in the coming days.

"See you at the debate on Sunday."

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#142381: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:16:52 PM

The Victory Fund IS Trump's campaign. That's all he has. There is nothing else. Like, at all. Without it, he' nothing more than a rally machine who is also a racist.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#142382: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:19:47 PM

The agreement allows the states involved to raise money for the Trump Victory Fund, the joint account the Republican National Committee and Trump campaign formed after he secured the nomination. The Trump Victory Fund then disburses cash to the state parties, either at the direction of the RNC, the candidate or the donor themselves.

But I'm not seeing any reports of the RNC cutting him off.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#142383: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:20:08 PM

[up][up][up] So it's another non-apology that includes a deflection to the Clintons. Nothing new from Trump.

edited 8th Oct '16 12:20:36 PM by M84

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#142384: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:22:49 PM

A true apology wouldn't bring up his opponents, it would focus on the offender and the people they hurt.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#142385: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:25:36 PM

@Parable: Here

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#142386: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:33:24 PM

M84: A politician giving an apology that doesn't attempt deflection is as good as a concession speech for many people.

edited 8th Oct '16 12:35:53 PM by CaptainCapsase

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#142387: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:37:23 PM

The growing list of Republicans who have abandoned Donald Trump

Arnold Schwarzenegger, former governor of California: “For the first time since I became a citizen in 1983, I will not vote for the Republican candidate for president. Like many Americans, I’ve been conflicted by this election – I still haven’t made up my mind about how exactly I will vote next month … But as proud as I am to label myself a Republican, there is one label that I hold above all else – American. So I want to take a moment today to remind my fellow Republicans that it is not only acceptable to choose your country over your party – it is your duty.”

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United Earth
#142388: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:43:49 PM

[up]Didn't See That Coming. Very elegant.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#142389: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:50:49 PM

Donald Trump engaged in crude and demeaning conversations about women over a 17-year-period with radio shock-jock Howard Stern, according to a review by CNN's K File of hours of newly uncovered audio.

Among the topics Trump discussed: his daughter Ivanka's physique, having sex with women on their menstrual cycles, threesomes, and checking out of a relationship with women after they turn 35.

Trump's long track record of making misogynistic comments and engaging in lewd conversations about sex took on a new and much darker tone on Friday night, when the "Washington Post" published audio of Trump, caught on a hot mic in 2005, bragging about how women let him do whatever he wants to them because he's a celebrity.

While Trump's comments — in which he describes forcing himself upon women — stand apart from anything he has said in the past, Trump has long engaged in sexually explicit banter over the years, particularly on Stern. Trump appeared on Stern's radio program for decades, and while many of his appearances have been reported on, K File's review has turned up previously unreported examples of Trump engaging in crude conversations.

Media smells blood and they're going to get it.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#142390: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:54:19 PM

[up] Time to drag up all the potentially explosive material they've been sitting on for decades?

edited 8th Oct '16 12:54:32 PM by Greenmantle

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#142391: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:57:21 PM

Seriously. This couldn't have played more perfectly if you had George R.R. Martin write it.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#142392: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:59:11 PM

I'm actually not happy at all about this. It's so viscerally disturbing that a person like Trump could even seek the nomination, let alone win it and contend realistically for the office of President. Don't get me wrong; this will hand the election to Clinton on a platter, but it is not how I wanted to see that happen.

Paradoxically, it may not have the desired and necessary effect of discrediting Republican ideology. Rather, it'll become about their choice of candidate, and the ideological battle will merely be postponed another four years.

edited 8th Oct '16 1:01:11 PM by Fighteer

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#142393: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:02:22 PM

The problem is that people have been saying "this scandal/gaffe/mistake will sink him for sure!" since the beginning of the primary, and nothing stuck to him yet. I'd like to think that this one is different, but I have no real reason to believe it. We'll have to see how this plays out in the debate and the next round of polls.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#142394: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:09:32 PM

Yeah, as damning as this seems, a lot of things have seemed pretty damning to Mango Mussolini, but given two or three weeks, Teflon Don's slipped out of things that should have sunk any normal candidate and rebounded in the polls to where he was before his previous "campaign-ending" scandal.

We'll have to see if voters are goldfish or if people are still outraged about this (and/or his past douchebaggery) in four weeks.

edited 8th Oct '16 1:11:10 PM by Balmung

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Lost in Space
#142395: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:14:13 PM

It's not about how the public reacts, but the GOP apparatus itself. Up until now, they've been sticking doggedly with their party's candidate no matter how odious he was out of a sense of solidarity, but it's fracturing messily at the moment.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Soopor Agent Peacock from Talon IV (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Agent Peacock
#142396: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:18:26 PM

The tension in my house is foolish over this damn election.

It makes me question voting at all, just because my parents and siblings are complete idiots regarding politics, and I live in the reddest possible state. My vote will not affect anything when it comes to the presidential race. I am tempted to vote in the local elections and just leave the presidential vote blank so that I won't face further damn nonsense from my parents.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#142397: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:18:57 PM

Well Trump's crowds might still be a problem.

[up]Vote anyway. Many places that are normally strong red states are threatening to flip.

edited 8th Oct '16 1:19:50 PM by Elle

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#142398: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:19:47 PM

I too am worried that this gives Republicans an easy out during the next election cycle. Now it'll be harder to associate the GOP with Trump's deplorability, because if anyone brings it up, they can say, "Look, I stood against Trump in the end." They're trying to save themselves at the last minute by leaving a sinking ship.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
Soopor Agent Peacock from Talon IV (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Agent Peacock
#142399: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:22:05 PM

[up][up] Not my state. It remains the reddest of states, as it probably will so long as 'red' is equated with whatever the twisted and wrongful definition of 'conservative' should be called here in the U.S.

[down] Louisiana.

edited 8th Oct '16 1:24:41 PM by Soopor

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#142400: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:23:54 PM

[up]West Virginia? Idaho? Oklahoma? Alabama?

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