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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#142126: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:35:22 PM

And your source for this one is...?

Given the only place I'm locating it is Before It's News where it's been up for...four days now...

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#142127: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:37:24 PM

Yes because now..there already isn't a half-assed one down there in certain parts anyways. If we build it on the Canada border too will it be equal opportunity construction? Or has everyone forgot wall building is a historical military strategy. Noone nags the Chinese for The Great Wall. Why don't they "Tear down this wall?"

Not sure if trolling or just really ignorant.

I mean, first of all, the Great Wall is a historical building. China didn't build it yesterday, it is hundred years old. It doesn't even work as a "wall" anymore. Comparing it to Trump's wall is asinine. Second, the wall at Mexico's border is not a military strategy. Mexico is not declaring war any time soonnote . Third, the wall would be prohibitively expensive, not only to build but to maintain. Forth, the wall wouldn't actually stop that many people from enteringnote . And, finally, the motivations to building said wall are pure ignorant bigotry.

I mean, sure, free speech means the student should be allowed to weir their stupid shirt. But the wall is absurd, and trying to defend it just shows your complete lack of understanding of the world.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:38:25 PM by Heatth

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#142128: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:39:09 PM

There's no reason at all to wall off our southern neighbors. They aren't actually "stealing our jobs" because those jobs were never going to go to us in the first place. And if some rich asshole wants to pay a couple of guys to work for him, it's not their fault for saying yes. Blame the guys like Trump who profit off of their labor.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#142130: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:41:48 PM

Dude, you ain't the 'silent majority.' You're not 'silent' and you're not 'a majority.'

And no, Trump's issues at the debate? Being Trump. That's it. He went off the rails because baiting him is ridiculously simple. Plus, this whole "he's not being controlled by special interests"...erm, have we missed he IS a special interest who's bragged about buying off politicians? So is the issue that there was a middle man?

edited 7th Oct '16 7:42:28 PM by Lightysnake

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#142131: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:41:50 PM

Elle: There are theories that the Great Wall was never really meant to keep people north of the border out, just to prevent them from carrying home too much loot. Of course, that doesn't mean anything if someone can be persuaded to leave the gate open. Being of a Chinese cultural background helps me out here after all, my 5 years studying this crap in middle school wasn't completely useless after all!

  • Stolen soldier avatar
  • High schooler
  • Trump 2016 shirt
  • Screeching about safe spaces
  • Screeching about walls
  • Screeching about liberalism
  • Unthinkingly repeating something because your Facebook feed told you
  • "The best we've got"
  • "Not beholden to special interests"

Yes, do go on about how liberals are the problem. Do continue.

Even Mr 47% has standards.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:44:06 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142132: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:43:43 PM

[up] I think they said they were in college, actually.

Oh God! Natural light!
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#142133: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:44:35 PM

Do you know what the Mexico wall reminds me of? The Berlin Wall. Which, might I remind you, wasn't actually intended to keep people out. It was made to keep people in. To maintain Soviet control over Eastern Germany and to limit the number of routes people could use to leave.

I know that's not why Trump wants to build it, but there are absolutely people in the US who would use it that way.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#142135: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:45:13 PM

Even if Hillary was corrupt, I'd still vote for her. She's the only candidate who's going to ensure the safety of me and my community. 90% of my friends would be hurt by Trump, including me.

[up] Drugs are coming in from Europe more than they are from Mexico dude.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:46:18 PM by smokeycut

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#142136: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:46:33 PM

Except our southern neighbors aren't 'white Russians,' and the wall would do pitifully little to deter crime or illegal immigration. It is not economically or logistically feasible, the environmental impact would be disastrous, you would need to displace many of their land and, oh yes, it wouldn't do a thing to support the goals you want it to.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#142137: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:46:37 PM

oh I dunno

That about sums up your post.

How likely would your family search for you if you were to fail to respond someday?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#142138: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:46:42 PM

About what started this, even though I don't feel particularly bad for the guy, I'm not sure I like he idea of being forced to write an apologize just for wearing a t-shirt. Assuming that's even true.

As for everything else's Zestywhatever has been saying, not making yourself look very good here.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:47:04 PM by LSBK

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#142139: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:47:07 PM

Trump IS the corrupt corporation pulling strings, which certainly makes things worse by putting the executive branch in the hands of someone who'd certainly use it to benefit himself, his cronies and anyone willing to kiss his orange ass.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#142140: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:47:54 PM

That, and the entire rest of the world with the exception of Russia, thinks Trump is a moron. And even Russians tend to think he's easy to control.

I'm just glad Trump doesn't appear to know Canada's a thing.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:49:58 PM by Zendervai

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#142141: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:49:41 PM

[up][up][up]I think I need to reiterate what other posters here have stated more eloquently than I will: The very act of declaring support for Donald Trump and/or the 2016 GOP platform declares support, explicitly or implicitly, for a large variety of extremely hateful ideologies explicitly centered on bringing hurt to anyone they disagree with.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:50:06 PM by Krieger22

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#142143: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:52:13 PM

[up] Really? Well then, what do you think about his choice of running mate, Mike Pence, who passed a law that allowed businesses to deny services to gay couples and whose opposition of needle exchange programs led to a fucking HIV outbreak in Southern Indiana?

Or his claims of having a "great temperament", even when he went for every piece of bait that Hillary laid out for him at the debate?

Or, again, his 2005 statements of how he could grab a woman's genitals, and no one would care because he's famous?

I can go on.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:53:13 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#142144: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:52:33 PM

Most of Mexico's actually doing fine. The further away from the border you get, the more stable the country is. The Yucatan region is apparently a really nice place to live. The Mexican government has been pushing the cartels further and further north over the past decade.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#142145: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:52:39 PM

Well, there are people who support Trump, not because they agree with his statements or positions, but because they really want to have a conservative majority on the Supreme Court again.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:53:53 PM by RavenWilder

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#142146: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:52:40 PM

But it really is their problem. Not ours.
.

It is. All politics is local. The demand for drugs comes from someplace.

In any event... no prior post history, no prior edit history... Let me guess, none of this happened. You're just upset people think poorly of your choice for President being recorded as wanting to grab a woman's crotch.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#142147: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:52:46 PM

[up]

The thing with the governmental/police corruption in Mexico is that the cartels (like the mob up here back during Prohibition) give them the fun Shame If Something Happened treatment, where they're offered a bribe... and casually informed that "Oh, by the by, we know where your wife works and where your kids go to school, so hopefully you'll agree to see things our way".

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#142148: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:53:56 PM

[up]x4 Which...technically means it's pushing them closer to us. If it was more south then Central America would be dealing with it; never understood what continent that was technically a part of.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:54:46 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#142150: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:55:49 PM

I think I need to reiterate what other posters here have stated more eloquently than I will: The very act of declaring support for Donald Trump and/or the 2016 GOP platform declares support, explicitly or implicitly, for a large variety of extremely hateful ideologies explicitly centered on bringing hurt to anyone they disagree with.

That just seems like a legitimate slippery slope to me. Like, if people personally ostracize the person fine. If they actually harass or otherwise harm others and get confrontational with their views and are subsequently dealt with, fine. But just going "You're supporting someone I vehemently disagree with so apologize to the entire school" is not fine.

Like, it just comes off as a similar vein as people going "My employee voted for Obama so I'm going to fire them." Obviously not as severe, but it's the same mindset.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:59:00 PM by LSBK


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