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Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#141951: Oct 6th 2016 at 3:24:21 PM

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Well obviously the Trump administration will be more than happy to retroactively revoke your citizenship so that you can get out of our country and back to where you belong.

As a side note, I can feel my faith in humanity die a little more with every day of this election cycle.

edited 6th Oct '16 3:24:56 PM by Matues

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#141952: Oct 6th 2016 at 3:40:25 PM

[up][up][up]Well there was also his time in Congress to look at. He wasn't gonna tax and spend or anything, but he was working during a time when a lot got done.

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#141953: Oct 6th 2016 at 3:53:35 PM

Say, does the President pay taxes the same way as the average citizen?

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#141955: Oct 6th 2016 at 3:56:03 PM

President Obama declared a state of emergency in Florida and South Carolina on Thursday, allowing the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA to coordinate relief efforts.

This could be our October surprise.

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#141956: Oct 6th 2016 at 3:57:36 PM

In whose favour though?

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#141957: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:04:41 PM

[up] It was in Obama's last time. And god does have a way of rescuing this country from our own monumental fuck ups from time to time. Not that were "gods chosen country", or anything like that. We are the retarded child that needs to be helped along from time to time.

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#141958: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:10:34 PM

It's not exactly unprecedented. When Hurricane Charley slammed into Florida in 2004 - when the Bush administration was in and the Iraq War was the hip new f*ckup - it left this in its wake.

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#141959: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:12:32 PM

Certainly to prevent a Katrina 2.0 from happening again.

Inter arma enim silent leges
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#141961: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:15:56 PM
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Inter arma enim silent leges
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
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#141963: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:18:04 PM

Trump likes Putin more than I thought.

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#141964: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:45:35 PM

That banner ought to burn.

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#141965: Oct 6th 2016 at 4:49:18 PM

So Trump is apparently holding some sort of pre-debate Town Hall thing right now. Honestly, I just saw it on CNN on my way out the door. Anyone know more about that?

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#141966: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:10:58 PM

Hurricane Matthew is a liberal conspiracy

    Example # 1,984, 633 of right wing media insanity 
Hurricane Matthew is looking to be the first major hurricane to hit Florida in a decade. It killed more than 100 people in Haiti. Officials in the state are taking on the difficult task of getting people to take the threat seriously enough to leave their homes.

Matt Drudge just made it a lot harder with a suggestion that the warnings are part of a left-wing conspiracy to convince Florida residents that climate change is real.

“The deplorables” — Trump supporters — “are starting to wonder if govt has been lying to them … to make exaggerated point on climate,” Drudge tweeted.

Then the Drudge Report got in on the action, tweeting an article from the Miami Herald and adding the headline “STORM FIZZLE? MATTHEW LOOKS RAGGED!”

The actual article linked from the tweet mentions nothing about the storm weakening, instead saying that strong winds are expected to start in Florida within hours.

There’s absolutely no evidence for Drudge’s claim. The National Weather Service is a nonpartisan agency; more than that, in the past it has cautioned against blaming any single storm on climate change, although the warming trend is making extreme storms more likely in general. Florida Gov. Rick Scott, who said Thursday that “this storm will kill you,” is a Republican with no incentive to play up the seriousness of the disaster in order to help the Clinton campaign.

Drudge’s conspiracy-mongering is a dangerous game. More than 1.5 million people live in the evacuation zone for Matthew. It’s already difficult to get people to take evacuation warnings seriously — so difficult that emergency managers have a slew of haunting tricks to drive home the danger of hurricanes, including asking people to write their Social Security numbers on their arms if they’re staying behind so that their bodies can be identified.

The implication of Drudge’s tweet is that resisting evacuation isn’t a bad, self-destructive move but a brave way for “deplorables” to stand up for the government. That’s not just stupid — it could very well be deadly.

And for your daily dose of Double Think, Trump supporters absolutely think that the election is rigged against him, and also believe that there's no way Trump won't win.

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#141967: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:14:29 PM
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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#141968: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:17:52 PM

[up] At least that's a bright side of this hurricane. Maybe it will take out some fascists.

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#141969: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:21:12 PM

Voters in Ohio say that they have a higher opinion of the University of Michigan than Donald Trump, 48/33:

[lol][lol][lol]

Savagery

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#141970: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:23:18 PM

[up][up]Natural selection at work.

But those who survive will sneer and bitch about dem gubimint not doing enough to take their asses out of there, or will try to pin on why the hurricane destroying their homes is a Democrat ploy to undermine them.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#141971: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:23:19 PM

[up][up][up] That's...a little too dark for my tastes to make an epic understatement.

edited 6th Oct '16 6:23:34 PM by Falrinn

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#141972: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:23:21 PM

What's the joke I'm not getting?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#141973: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:28:45 PM

[up][up]People saying stuff like that here isn't that uncommon. It's a bit uncomfortable, actually.

[Mod edit: Removed reference to thumped post]

edited 6th Oct '16 6:39:51 PM by Berrenta

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#141974: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:31:16 PM

[up] They are Neo-Nazis. The only good Nazi is a dead one. I hope the actual innocent people get to safety, though.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#141975: Oct 6th 2016 at 6:33:49 PM

[up]Pretty sure we're not supposed to be wishing death on anyone. But like I said, that gets easily annoyed when it's groups of people not typically liked in this thread.

Edit: Also, holding terrible views, in and of itself, doesn't mean that someone deserves to die. Defining people as "innocent" because they agree with you is a dangerous move.

edited 6th Oct '16 6:40:21 PM by LSBK


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