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#141376: Oct 3rd 2016 at 12:51:08 PM

U.S. presidential candidate Trump's charity ordered to stop fundraising in NY state

New York's attorney general ordered Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's charitable foundation to immediately stop fundraising in the state, saying the Trump Foundation was breaking a law that requires charities to register with a state government agency.

"The failure immediately to discontinue solicitation and to file information and reports required under Article 7-A with the Charities Bureau shall be deemed to be a continuing fraud upon the people of the state of New York," according to a letter dated on Friday that the attorney general's office posted online.

The "notice of violation," issued by the office of New York state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, followed a series of reports in The Washington Post that suggested improprieties by the Trump Foundation, including using the foundation to settle legal disputes.

The scrutiny on the Trump Foundation came as Trump was dealing with a torrent of bad news, including his shaky debate performance against Clinton on Sept. 26 and the release by the New York Times of tax records that showed Trump taking an almost $1 billion loss in 1995 that may have allowed him to avoid paying federal income taxes for up to 18 years.

In its series of stories on the Trump Foundation, the Post reported that Trump may have violated U.S. Internal Revenue Service rules against “self-dealing” by using foundation money to purchase two portraits of himself, which were then hung at Trump’s private golf clubs in New York and Florida.

The newspaper also said that Trump may have improperly used the foundation to settle legal disputes.

In response to the Post's reporting, Schneiderman's office launched an investigation into the Trump Foundation.

The New York Attorney General’s Office is the sole regulator of charities in the state. A spokesman for the office said it is not unusual for the regulator to send notices to charities whose filings are overdue or incomplete, but a cease-and-desist letter is more serious.

While letters such as the one the Trump Foundation received are not judgments of wrongdoing, they are sent only after the office gets “a clear indication of wrongdoing,” the spokesman said.

Trump established the charitable foundation in 1988, but it runs no programs of its own. Instead, it donates money to other nonprofit groups. Once it started soliciting money from other donors beyond the Trump family, it was required by New York law to register with the state.

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#141377: Oct 3rd 2016 at 1:05:05 PM

I think the problem here is everyone assuming that corruption and ideological purity are not mutually exclusive. Ideological purity and corruption are opposite extremes. The problem with the Republican voter base is what they see as ideologically pure. From the Republican voter base's point of view, a pro-life, pro-gun, pro-police, anti-LGBT stance is ideologically pure and any deviation from that ideal is corruption.

edited 3rd Oct '16 1:06:14 PM by GameGuruGG

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#141378: Oct 3rd 2016 at 1:22:37 PM

The issue with that argument is that some elements of the ideology, such as the gun rights thing, are reinforced by extremely thorough lobbying which is borderline, if not outright, bribery.

The base has an ideologically pure basis, but the politicians are being controlled through corruption.

edited 3rd Oct '16 1:25:15 PM by Zendervai

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#141379: Oct 3rd 2016 at 1:25:03 PM

A politician who takes lobbying money to do a thing I support: Honest. A politician who takes lobbying money to do a thing I'm against: Corrupt. How do you prove a quid pro quo? By the rules established by the Supreme Court, it's remarkably difficult.

edited 3rd Oct '16 1:26:09 PM by Fighteer

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#141380: Oct 3rd 2016 at 2:04:11 PM

What does Ass-ange have against Hillary in particular?

I don't like how so many foreign powers are trying to mess with our country's election. This is something that absolutely should no be encouraged. It just pisses me off.

I have grown weary of conspiracy theories and the people that peddle in them. It's not wrong to question things, but it's easy for some people to be manipulated into believing things that are still false but benefit the conspiracy peddler in some way.

edited 3rd Oct '16 2:05:00 PM by BearyScary

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#141381: Oct 3rd 2016 at 2:20:04 PM

He (and his fans) seem convinced that Hillary asked about drone striking him in a meeting behind closed doors.

edited 3rd Oct '16 2:20:28 PM by Lennik

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#141382: Oct 3rd 2016 at 2:20:19 PM

Assange vocalizes a claim that Hillary and Trump are equally bad — of course, he never publicizes any information leaks about Trump, so that claim is suspect. He probably has a massive grudge against the Obama administration and thus is doing his best to sabotage his legacy.

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#141383: Oct 3rd 2016 at 2:36:28 PM

Fighteer explained the difference between "honest politicians" and "corrupt politicians" in the eyes of the voters better than I ever could. I mean, how else would you explain the political viewpoint of Trump supporters where Trump is more honest than Hillary? What ultimately saves the Democrats from suffering from this same issue is that they are the more pragmatic party compared to the Republicans.

edited 3rd Oct '16 2:40:06 PM by GameGuruGG

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#141384: Oct 3rd 2016 at 3:04:38 PM

If Assange has something against both candidates, then he should treat them equally. Or try to.

But it seems that he really has a grudge against Hillary.

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#141385: Oct 3rd 2016 at 3:54:06 PM

I believe the forum has a rule against making the discussion about posters, if I remember correctly.

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#141386: Oct 3rd 2016 at 3:58:09 PM

Sure, but Assange doesn't post here, so we're all good.

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#141387: Oct 3rd 2016 at 4:07:29 PM

But posters have power...

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#141388: Oct 3rd 2016 at 4:20:45 PM

538 says that Trump is basically screwed if he can't win in Florida, as winning there gives Clinton leeway to lose elsewhere and still make 270. Meanwhile, Donald's only chance to come back would be to win Pennsylvania, where he is behind in the polls and a state that really isn't much of a swing state anymore.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-really-really-needs-to-win-florida/

Their polls only model has Clinton back above 70%, while the nowcast has her at almost 80%. Trump's debate performance and breakdown afterwards (which has shown no signs of stopping or even slowing down) looks like it has at least erased Clinton's loses from the 9/11 spell.

edited 3rd Oct '16 4:23:18 PM by Rationalinsanity

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#141389: Oct 3rd 2016 at 4:47:41 PM

[up][up][up]Oh okay. I was wondering why i didn't see a troper by that name on the last few pages.

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#141390: Oct 3rd 2016 at 5:18:21 PM

So I heard that the next debate is going to have people asking the candidates questions in person. How much do you want to bet Trump gets mad about one of the questions and personally insults the person asking?

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#141391: Oct 3rd 2016 at 5:19:57 PM

He's referring to Julian Assange, the owner and proprietor of Wiki Leaks. He's hiding out in an embassy in Sweden to evade charges for two counts of rape and has been on a campaign to ensure Trump wins the White House for months.

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#141392: Oct 3rd 2016 at 5:21:11 PM

[up][up]That's not an if. The questions are 'what will it be about?', 'will it happen more than once?', 'How much attention will it receive afterwards?'

edited 3rd Oct '16 5:21:28 PM by Gilphon

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#141393: Oct 3rd 2016 at 5:25:23 PM

[up][up]The Ecuadorian Embassy in London, actually. The rape charges did originate in Sweden.

Apparently the reason he holds such a grudge against the Clintons is that he had funding towards his PhD cut when he was in the US during Bill's presidency. No, I do not see how this makes him look less petty.

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#141394: Oct 3rd 2016 at 6:09:57 PM

What? He's got a grudge that goes back to the nineties? What even happened there?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#141395: Oct 3rd 2016 at 6:18:54 PM

Maybe Bill indirectly cut off funding to his research or something and he's bitter. I have to say, if that's the real reason then on top of being an idiot and rapist he's also an absurdly petty person.

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#141396: Oct 3rd 2016 at 6:29:27 PM

I kind of hoped that Assange would be more even-handed in his political machinations. May as well ask someone to stop breathing, I guess, and then be surprised when they turn purple.

I have a naive hope that Trump wouldn't insult someone during a town hall, but just look at how he treated that poor woman and her baby that one time.

What kind of jerk insults a parent and child behind their backs? In public, no less. (Sure, they may think it, but people don't usually voice those kinds of thoughts outside of, say, a You Tube comments section.)

Actually, that may be a good metaphor for Trump's campaign: the Human Youtube Comments Section.

edited 3rd Oct '16 6:32:33 PM by BearyScary

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#141397: Oct 3rd 2016 at 6:32:01 PM

[up][up]That sounds like something one of Batman's villains would do. Obviously, Hillary Clinton is the alter-ego of a Badass Normal superhero.

Anyway, does anyone know what happened about Trump getting illegal donation from the Mexican Government when he accepted the invitation here? I read something about it in Time but haven't seen anything since then.

edited 3rd Oct '16 6:34:11 PM by Cid

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#141398: Oct 3rd 2016 at 6:52:02 PM

Assange is a plain anti American imperialist, trust me, South America is filled with these type of guys and the amount of mental gymnastics they are willing to do to justify their hatred towards the US, justified or not, is incredible. These are people who would align themselves with anyone who can undermine the US influence and cite human rights and imperialistic concerns as the reason to oppose the US while at the same time seeking support from places like Russia and China.

I doubt Assange has a personal vendetta against Hillary, as he's been a pain in the ass since Obama's first term, he probably just wants to prop anything that can damage the US.

edited 3rd Oct '16 6:54:55 PM by AngelusNox

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Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#141399: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:23:33 PM

So, as a change of pace from typical discussion, what do you guys think Obama's letter to Hillary will be/say when he leaves office that all Presidents get?

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#141400: Oct 3rd 2016 at 7:24:16 PM

"Good luck."

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