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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I think he tends to believe in what he's doing when he does it - see: ego - but when everything goes south, he's also been very good at not being the one holding the bag. He also has no shame.
So: he's such a good con artist that he ends up Believing Their Own Lies?
edited 2nd Oct '16 8:11:31 AM by Ramidel
So here's the schedule break down for Hilldawg
On Monday, Hillary is in Ohio, Bill is in Michigan, Sanders is in Iowa and Biden is in Florida.
On Tuesday, Hillary is in Pennsylvania, Michelle is in North Carolina, Warren is in Nevada, Sanders is in Minnesota, and Bill is in Ohio. The VP debate is that night.
On Wednesday, Hillary is off the trail (debate prep?), Obama is in Florida, Kaine is in Pennsylvania and Bill is still in Ohio.
Lawd, can we say all-star team?
New Survey coming this weekend!John Hempton, former Australian Treasury tax avoidance specialist and fund manager on Trump's $916 million loss
. Basically, the losses may be in the form of debt parked out there somewhere.
True, the polarized nature of this campaign means that undecideds are the only ways the numbers can shift. The only other way to boost your vote share is driving turnout, or hoping that your opponent drives their own base away.
Well, that and people who say they support 3rd party tickets but vote differently on Election Day.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
People saying they're supporting third parties in polls before election day generally do. Third party support generally tapers off over time, but this year it really hasn't. That usually hurts the incumbent party more than the opposition, which appears to be the case this year.
One phenomena in this election that hasn't really show up in other elections is the sinusoidal pattern in the polls. It's why I'm skeptical that Clinton's debate bounce will stick, incidentally; both candidates have historically high unfavorable ratings, which generally means whichever candidate ends up dominating a particular news cycle tends to suffer in the polls. Hopefully election day doesn't happen to occur during the midst of a Clinton dominated cycle.
edited 2nd Oct '16 9:11:49 AM by CaptainCapsase
I mean, yeah, the stuff there that we hadn't actually heard before wasn't exactly surprising.
I'd like to see him get hit on the sexism angle a bit more in the next debate, since he still has some ground to lose there and Hillary just got a bunch of new ammunition.
Well- really, I'd like to see ignoring the personal issues entirely and more just emphasizing the total lack of substance to his position while showing that Clinton's has plenty, but that's kind of tricky to pull off- you'd have to have Clinton and the Moderators just ignore the words coming out of his mouth, and the moderators just reiterate the questions until he says something resembling an answer. Which would probably mean letting him get away with a bunch of bold-faced lies and attacks on Clinton.
So apparently there's a nonzero chance of an electoral college deadlock occurring based on recent polling of New Mexico.
Wouldn't that be a clusterfuck.
edited 2nd Oct '16 9:20:27 AM by CaptainCapsase
The secret service would be working overtime in the case of a split White House.
Also keep in mind that in that scenario it might not go to the House, it might go to Johnson if he offered to have his electors go faithless.
edited 2nd Oct '16 10:22:53 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranSo as everyone probably knows, Bernie's going to be in Minnesota this Tuesday, and I'd actually like to go to his rally and attend one of those things for a change. The problem is, I've no clue exactly when or where the rally's going to be, and I have no idea how to find out. Could someone help me out here? Pretty please?
Also, I read an article about Sanders announcing the rally, and I found this:

In other words, he's a first-class con artist.
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