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tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#141151: Oct 1st 2016 at 12:04:51 PM

On Trump bringing up Bill's affairs. IT WAS TWENTY YEARS AGO DUMBASS!!

Also how can he think bringing up Bill's cheating will hurt Hillary? Unless he's doing it for the sole purpose of hurting her on a personal level which I would not put past him.

Trump delenda est
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#141152: Oct 1st 2016 at 12:07:03 PM

He's trying to paint Clinton as an accessory to rape/abuse. Plus the whole enabling BS.

It won't hurt Clinton, but it might drive away swing voters (particularly women, who he already has issues with).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#141153: Oct 1st 2016 at 12:44:20 PM

Didn't Trump cheat on his wives? Plus the whole rape thing which is surprisingly going unreported.

Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#141154: Oct 1st 2016 at 12:45:30 PM

At least once, yes. And he's faced allegations of sexual harassment (at least), in addition to a long record of misogyny.

edited 1st Oct '16 12:51:11 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#141155: Oct 1st 2016 at 12:47:52 PM

Last I heard he was taking the line that yes he did and it doesn't mater, because <self-justification>

[up]x5 I've always seek it spelt with the k and heard it pronounced with the hard k sound as in sky.

edited 1st Oct '16 12:55:32 PM by Elle

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#141156: Oct 1st 2016 at 12:58:25 PM

[up] It's a difference between British and American English.

Keep Rolling On
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#141157: Oct 1st 2016 at 1:03:12 PM

Not only was he accused of rape by his ex wife, he's been accused by two other women as well (I don't know much about the one case, but the third woman claimed it happened while she was underaged as well).

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#141158: Oct 1st 2016 at 1:21:15 PM

Ironically, for someone trying to make a big deal out of someone else's adultery, Trump and his most prominent supporters, Gingrich and Giuliani, all have a history of adultery, with a shared total of nine marriages between them.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#141159: Oct 1st 2016 at 1:32:26 PM

But Clinton was President (and a Democrat), so only he counts as bad.

I mean, at least Bill never left two of his wives when he learned that they were seriously ill.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#141160: Oct 1st 2016 at 1:45:25 PM

The other forum i'm on calls it IOKIYAR, short for "It's okay if you're a Republican." It complements the "Clinton Rules," although those only target the Clintons specifically, where normal things politicians do become major scandals if Clinton does it, while oft-scandalous things are fine if a Republican is doing them.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#141161: Oct 1st 2016 at 2:34:31 PM

What about normal things everyone does?

Like deleting emails?

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#141162: Oct 1st 2016 at 2:45:23 PM

Part of Trump's ability to shrug off these sorts of scandals is that he's never held political office before, so they aren't technically political scandals, they're just shitty things some rich business guy did, and we expect rich business guys to do a lot of shitty things.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#141164: Oct 1st 2016 at 3:54:38 PM

His reasoning is utter absurdity. It's easy to forget that with Pence's dry, 'boring' demeanor, he's a pretty vile man.

Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#141165: Oct 1st 2016 at 4:05:20 PM

Trump is about to talk about the "basement dwellers" nonsense. CNN is talking about it right now.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#141166: Oct 1st 2016 at 4:44:42 PM

Is it mean if I find it lulzy that there's a Gays for Trump movement, considering who his running mate is?

edited 1st Oct '16 4:46:46 PM by BearyScary

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tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#141168: Oct 1st 2016 at 5:50:37 PM

So, Trump's reason for attacking Hillary's marriage is to try and turn women against her. The Clinton campaign seems to be using it as evidence that he's unhinged, and Clinton herself seems to be responding from the angle that he's trying to bully her into stopping her support for that Miss Universe woman.

So, it looks like Trump will be using this subject in his next debate, and Clinton's response seems to be to use it as an example of her claims that Trump is a bully. I can see why Republicans don't want Trump to use Bill's affairs. It might blow up in his face.

Don't know how reliable the NY Times is, but the clearest quote is in there at the moment.

He said he was bringing up Mr. Clinton’s infidelities because he thought they would repulse female voters and turn them away from the Clintons, and because he was eager to unsettle Mrs. Clinton in their next two debates and on the campaign trail.

“She’s nasty, but I can be nastier than she ever can be,” Mr. Trump said.

“Hillary Clinton was married to the single greatest abuser of women in the history of politics,” he added about Mr. Clinton. “Hillary was an enabler, and she attacked the women who Bill Clinton mistreated afterward. I think it’s a serious problem for them, and it’s something that I’m considering talking about more in the near future.”

Mr. Trump said he believed that his own marital history did not preclude him from waging such an attack. He became involved with Marla Maples while he was still married to his first wife, Ivana, who divorced him in 1991. He married Ms. Maples in 1993; they were divorced in 1999. He married his current wife, Melania, in 2005.

A Clinton campaign spokesman on Friday night described Mr. Trump as “unhinged” in his attacks on Mrs. Clinton over Ms. Machado. “As Hillary has said, Donald Trump can say whatever he wants about her, but she will not be bullied out of defending Alicia and the many other women Trump has attacked and demeaned,” said the campaign spokesman, Brian Fallon.

Mr. Trump’s sharply negative attacks on the Clintons, and on Ms. Machado, pose a significant political risk to his own appeal: Two-thirds of voters already see him unfavorably, according to polls, and he is struggling to win over female voters — including white women, a majority of whom have historically supported the Republican candidate in presidential elections.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#141169: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:19:07 PM

Mike Pence is very much like Heinrich Himmler.

  • Not in the limelight and not fond of being out there.
  • Prefers putting his works in place without publicity or acclaim.
  • stands behind the boss and does the actual horrid work.
  • holds the most of the actual power (Trump has talked about giving Pence all the day to day work, probably not thinking what sort of power that would give Pence).
  • enjoys enforcing Heteronormative Crusader laws and functions as revenge against those who he feels are either slighting him as a person or as a class. (he most likely refused to release that innocent black man as a way of saying "Black Lives Matter? Not to me they don't.")
  • Believes in nothing insomuch as his own advancement.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#141170: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:25:36 PM

Did Pence really say that Black lives don't matter to him?

I kinda thought that Trump would hand over a lot of work to his VP.

Now I think there's something really vile about the apathy encouraged towards potential vice presidents. It takes away some of your own political power. You should care who your VP may be, in case of anything happen to the POTUS, God forbid.

Do not obey in advance.
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#141171: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:31:29 PM

Y'know, I'm now remembering how Trump closed off the debate by saying he had held himself back from making overly personal attacks against Hillary, and wasn't he a great person for doing so.

I guess that's gone out the window now.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#141172: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:33:56 PM

I really hope Trump keeps to his word and brings up Bill's affairs, because it will make the second debate an even bigger slaughter. And Clinton has skin of iron, she won't even flinch.

You can't win the White House if women won't vote for you in sufficient numbers. End of story.

edited 1st Oct '16 6:36:27 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#141173: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:39:03 PM

NYT gets Trump's 1995 tax documents, might have avoided taxes for two decades

Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show.

The 1995 tax records, never before disclosed, reveal the extraordinary tax benefits that Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, derived from the financial wreckage he left behind in the early 1990s through mismanagement of three Atlantic City casinos, his ill-fated foray into the airline business and his ill-timed purchase of the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan.

Tax experts hired by The Times to analyze Mr. Trump’s 1995 records said tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#141174: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:57:58 PM

hahahahaha

Trump accused Hilldawg herself of not being loyal to Bill.

I can't.

New Survey coming this weekend!
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#141175: Oct 1st 2016 at 6:58:29 PM

If Hillary has a skin of iron, what kind of skin does Trump have?

[up]You mean he implied that Hillary cheated on Bill?

...Why does this even surprise me at this point? ;-;

edited 1st Oct '16 6:59:20 PM by BearyScary

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